Tuesday, September 22, 2009

Values Voter Summit: Porno Makes You Gay! Obama As A Monkey? Death Panels And More

values voter summit 2009

"...We must absolutely set out to smash the lie of the new and novel concept of the separation of religion from the state which most people now hold and which Christians have just bought a bill of goods. This is new and this is novel. It has no relationship to the meaning of the First Amendment. The First Amendment was that the state would never interfere with religion...

...When the government negates the law of God, it abrogates its authority. God has given certain offices to restrain chaos in this fallen world, but it does not mean that these offices are autonomous, and when a government commands that which is contrary to the Law of God, it abrogates its authority.

Throughout the whole history of the Christian Church, at a certain point, it is not only the privilege but it is the duty of the Christian to disobey the government. Now that's what the founding fathers did when they founded this country. That's what the early Church did. That's what Peter said. You heard it from the Scripture: "Should we obey man?... rather than God?" That's what the early Christians did."
Quote from: A Christian Manifesto by Francis A. Schaeffer 1981

and more recently -Sept.20, 2009 Right Wing Understanding of the Separation of Church and State from Right Wing Watch: Values Voter Summit

Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association tells the Values Voter Summit that it is impossible for anyone other than Congress to violate the First Amendment's religious establishment clause.

And a rather shocking and bizarre suggestion - Lila Rose Says Abortions Ought To Be Done In Public Right Wing Watch: Values Voter Summit

More from Values Voter Summit
PORNO MAKES YOU GAY! and Bill O'Reilly
received a Media Courage Award at Values Voter Summit;
ironically the ceremony was closed to the media.
O'Reilley's speech was about how unfairly conservatives and the Religious Right are treated by the liberal/mainstream media

September 21, 2009 MSNBC Rachel Maddow Show

This off color anecdote from Roy Blunt is not so funny when the president is black.Did he think no one would notice or was he completely naive about any such connection- if not then it would still reflect something deeper going on in the story teller. So is he suggesting Obama is the monkey or like a monkey . Is he claiming Obama is the monkey because he's black or because Obama's father was from Kenya and therefore like the monkey a foreign unexpected and unwanted or uninvited element into the order of the Golf Course which stands as a symbol of order and civilization.

Is the anecdote racist or just a dud.Does it have as they say unintended consequences ie meanings and interpretations.

Is he suggesting Obama is performing his duties as president in a completely arbitrary and haphazard manner tossing ideas and such out hoping something will work. Another side to this anecdote is that it could be a sly attack on Darwinian Evolution being dismissive of monkeys and dismissing the idea that somehow humans are related to monkeys, or apes ??? see end-note ***

The Daily Kos' Markos Moulitsas Mocks Hypocrisy On Display At Values Voter Summit - 9/18/2009
[Countdown With Keith Olbermann, MSNBC] The Daily Kos' Markos Moulitsas Mocks Hypocrisy On Display At Values Voter Summit - 9/18/2009

And a few more bad jokes: Looking for the death panel just visit Nancy Pelosi/ funny not!
Fox News celebrates the gathering of the Religious Right and UberConservatives
Values Voter Summit: Conference of Conservatives in Washington, D.C., 09-18-09

To paraphrase Eric Cantor:Americans need to be vigilant in order to ensure Obama treats all Americans fairly?
Congressman Cantor defends saying tea baggers are protecting democracy
From ThinkProgress

The Religious Right are not followers of Jesus but rather are believers in some form of Prosperity Gospel in which God's chosen few prosper materially, financially etc. while the not chosen are deprived of wealth or possibly even food or shelter as a punishment from their materialistic God of Fortune. So it is logical to conclude that they would not be in favor of substantively improving the health care system for all Americans unless there are more profits to be made by those in the health care & insurance industry . So Mike Huckabee will stand his ground against any sort of Universal Health Care or Public Option not as a matter of principle but rather as long as the industry donates enough money to his campaign funding or provides him and his family with a few all expense paid vacations or free health care for him and his family. One wonders if those on the other side of this debate were able to give Huckabee & others a larger financial incentive would they change sides . More than likely they would.

Mike Huckabee sees health care reform as just part of the ongoing attack on Christian values from Roe V Wade in 1973 to the present.Therefore he concludes real Americans who believe in God and the Bible are against abortion and what he and others on the right refer to as "the culture of death".

They believe that Roe V Wade was the beginning of government interference by which the government could then decree when life begins and when life is worthy of life and who's life is of value and who's is not. So the Religious Right sees the Obama health care reforms as just another way for government to intervene into the lives of citizens. They erroneously claim that the government would decide who would be your doctor ;what medical tests and procedures you would be eligible for; and whether or not someone could be encouraged to end their life in order to save the tax payers money or this might be decided upon by the government etc.

Mike Huckabee rips ObamaCare, the Sen. Baucus plan at the 2009 Values Voter Summit.

Tom Price erroneously suggests that America has one of if not the best healthcare systems in the world. This is far from the truth a couple of dozen countries have better health care.Some 40 million Americans are without health care does he care not really since he believes if there are problems with health care the government should provide insentment to the private health care industry to make those changes. But in the end he and his group of Uberconservatives believe in the end it should be left to the Free Market Place to fix these problems. But he forgets that most of the problems facing Americans who have health care insurance those problems are created by the industry in order to save money on healthcare so they can by hook or crook by the use of legalese and small print and a hundred different excemptions increase their profits on the backs of the sick and dying.

Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) speaks on health care at the Values Voter Summit. (September 18, 2009)

*** Endnote- On the Monkey story:

And one could raise the issue of colonialism involved in the anecdote. The idea or the historical propaganda and myth he seems to buy into is that India was just a big jungle with a few uncivilized inhabitants in 1900. He believes that only America and some parts of Europe were or could have been considered civilized. He like other American centered or Eurocentic thinkers avoid the fact that India already had a civilization (Harrapan) going back a couple of thousand years before his God the Nazarene walked the earth. Blunt and his audience are of course believers in American exceptionalism and that the nation of the United States was created due to divine providence and that their nation is part of their God's plan. They assume that the people of India except for a minority who are Christian are a bunch of Heathens who have been duped by Satan. Part of what the anecdote implies is that those poor Englishman who were Christian and civilized lived in India without much to do and building a golf course meant they were bringing something good and wholesome to India. The story teller is uninterested in historical facts or the immorality of the British invasion and occupation of India against the wishes of its people. Is this over analyzing.

and so it goes,

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