Friday, December 04, 2009

Anti-Muslim Andrew Bostom & Enoch Powell's " Rivers of Blood " Christianity & Islam Religions Of Intolerance & War

UPDATE: 8:22 PM, & 9:00 PM, Dec. 4, 2009

This piece of anti-Obama anti-Islam propaganda comes from Pam Geller's site Atlas-Shrugs -she promotes the conspiracy theory that Obama is not an American citizen and is a "Secret Muslim" who sympathizes with the Muslim Terrorists.
"No compulsion in Religion"-Quran
Racist Xenophobic Nativist ENOCH POWELL -RIVERS OF BLOOD-Looking Forward to Race Wars in Britain

Powell's racist anti-multiculturalism beliefs are now part of The British National Party

Rivers of Blood Enoch Powell T -Shirt
Enoch Powell image with 'Rivers of Blood’ on the front and an extract from his famous speech on the back:from racist BNP: British National Party website
Note how all these right wing groups do a lot of merchandising on their websites big money in Hate.

" As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see the River Tiber foaming with much blood. We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependants, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal." Enoch Powell, 20 April 1968

'The orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat ... The "extermination" tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter-day witch-hysteria".

Quote from NICK GRIFFIN, current leader of the Anti-Muslim Racist BNP:British National Party
( Note:Pam Geller, Robert Spencer and other racist right wingers and Islamophobes in America are increasing their ties to the BNP and to other European and British racist, fascist,Nativist groups and individuals such as Geert Wilders, Nick Griffin)

Anti-Islam, Nativist, Eurocentric hate monger Geert Wilders and "Fellow Traveler" Nick Griffin leader BNP.
BNP: Leader Neo-Nazi Nick Griffin

"...It is ludicrous to imagine that one form of racism can be fought by employing another form of racism...

This is by no means the first occasion on which CST has stressed why Jews should not be fooled by anti-Muslim bigotry, even when it dresses itself up in pro-Jewish guise. As we stated previously:

…this is the politics of hatred and division, which has nothing positive to offer any part of society. The fact that Muslims are the current target simply means that it is Muslims who should be the recipients of anti-racist solidarity."

From: "Don’t be fooled by Islamophobia" at CST blog Nov. 30, 2009

Andrew Bostom and other Anti-Islam spokespersons want to declare economic warfare and freeze trade on all Islamic countries and all Muslims who refuse to give in to their demands .

Islamophobes Brigitte Gabriel with Andrew Bostom at Gathering for Geert Wilders

Brigitte Gabriel lies, exaggerates , makes stuff up the Neocon way- She claimed to live in a bomb shelter in Lebanon for 6 years her former neighbors in Lebanon say maybe ten days?? "A Case Study in Sincere Hypocrisy: Brigitte Gabriel" by Mooneye at, April 14, 2009

Brigitte Gabriel is a notorious apologist for the fascist Phalange group, Kataeb, and the terrorist group, the South Lebanon Army (SLA), who were responsible for the Sabra and Shatila massacres that slaughtered 1700 to 2000 Palestinians (mostly women and chidren).

Neocon anti-Islam racist Tony Blankley at Party for Racist Geert Wilders

"Thus in the interim, those preaching the bigoted and murderous doctrines of jihad within the West should be deported. Moreover, we in the West must press our political and religious leaders to demand that such bellicose, hate-mongering "educational" practices be abolished in all Islamic nations, without exception, under threat of severe, broad ranging economic sanctions." Andrew Bostom

Photo Andrew Bostom, Robert Spencer and Pam Geller at the 2007 Counterjihad Brussels
see Counterjihad at Pam Geller's Atlas Shrugs and see endnote.

Leonard Zeskind in a recent article points out that Islamophobia is wide spread in America.

"Islamophobia is no secret" by Leonard Zeskind, at Searchlight Nov. 2009
In Gainesville, Florida, a Christian pastor sent his ten-year old daughter to school with the slogan “Islam is of the Devil” printed in large red block type on the back of her t-shirt.

The same slogan had been posted on a homemade sign outside a nearby church. In South Carolina, the words “death to Muslims” were marked near an entrance to an Islamic Centre.

In September, the mayor of a small town in Tennessee sent an email to city employees and others urging them to protest at a US postage stamp that commemorated Islamic religious holidays. “To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those Americans who died at the hands of those who this stamp honors,” the message concluded. The mayor mistakenly claimed that the stamp, first issued in 2001, was ordered by President Barack Obama, another in a long line of incidents in which the president has been described as a “Muslim terrorist” or such like.
Self-proclaimed Islamic Scholar/Expert Andrew Bostom on Bill O'Reilly at Fox News

Andrew Bostom on Fox News O'Reilly Show 10 May 2006

There are a number of objections which can be raised concerning Bostom's characterization of Islam as an inherently violent religion which engages in Jihad as Holy War to convert the world to Islam.

Even if we grant that Islam is a religion that has been involved in wars of aggression to convert other nations and to steal their wealth it is not the only religion which has done so. Christianity also has had a bloody history of war from the mass murder of Pagans and other non-Christians when Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire and all other religions were made criminal non-Christians were banished , incarcerated or fed to the lions a long with any who dared preach so-called heresies . Roman Christianity did not teach tolerance or diversity instead it aggressively pursued a policy of Christianizing the whole of the Roman Empire. The spreading of Christianity via the sword became fundamental to Roman Christianity and continued after the Reformation by Protestant sects as well.

The crusade were wars of aggression and were waged for various more mundane reasons that is to capture the rich lands inhabited by Arabs and Muslims. The Crusaders were no more merciful to their enemies than were the Muslims to their perceived enemies. The Crusaders engaged in a number of massacres of non-combatants in taking Jerusalem and other cities. The Christian Crusaders massacred not just Muslims but also Jews and those Christians who lived in Islamic controlled cities and territories.

Yes then we have the brutal so-called Reconquista of Muslim controlled Spain some 300 years after the Muslims had conquered the region. It did not matter to the Christian rulers or the Pope in Rome that after such a long period Christians and Jews had to a great extent made their peace with the Muslim rulers. Many of these Christians we are told had views and beliefs which in the eyes of the Catholic Church made them heretics besides the fact they did not rise up against their Muslim rulers. So these Christians were not necessarily to say the least enthusiastic about the invading hordes from Christian Spain since they feared for their lives and many were killed or sent into exile.

The Jewish people in the Muslim ruled territory may have had to live with various restrictions but they fared much better than most of the Jewish populations at that time in Christian controlled Europe. When the Reconquista was completed the Jews were told to convert to Christianity or they would be expelled from what was now Christian Spain's territory. Many Jews decided to convert the conversos but soon enough those in power in Spain and the Catholic Church feared these conversos were just pretending to be Christians and were secretly continuing their Jewish religious traditions so the Church established the Inquisition to purge the territory of false converts through the use of torture followed by some brutal form of execution.

But even today there are Christians who act as apologist for the Inquisition as if there were some way to justify it. So they will claim it only lasted a few years and was conducted without the full approval of the Popes or the Catholic Church which is historically inaccurate. So these defensive Christian and Jewish apologist either down play the extent of the Inquistion which then expanded throughout so called Christendom from Spain to Great Britain to the Balkans and Eastern Europe and lasted several hundred years in various forms.

The so called Spanish Inquisition began though as just another form of Christian anti-Semitism and was not an aberration it was in fact basic to Christian beliefs. As I have discussed before anti-Semitism was not some new innovation but went back at least to the time of the Early Church Fathers who blamed the Jews for the death of Jesus. Up until recently the Jewish peoples were collectively characterized as not just guilty of the death of Jesus but that all their descendants also were guilty of deicide and that the Jews were the spawn or children of Satan and so must be kept oppressed .
Even Martin Luther preached hatred of all Jews as did most Christian leaders including the Popes and the Vatican.It was mainly due to the rise of liberalism in Europe in the 18th and nineteenth century that European Jews were treated almost as equals to Christians though whenever anti-Semitic rumors took hold the Jews would be attacked wiped out or locked into the Ghettos which existed in most European cities.

Massacres, Pogroms and insecurity were the lot of the majority of the Jews of Europe.
The lives of Jews was severely restricted more so than they were in most Muslim territories.

Of course we shouldn't forget the crimes against humanity and other misdeeds carried out by Christians against the indigenous peoples of the Americas where millions of native peoples were slaughtered or sold into slavery and pushed off of their lands. Christians continued to expand their Empires into Africa , Asia, Australia , New Zealand , and India justifying killing millions by arguing that these indigenous populations were or are inferior and that those who were not slaughtered be forced to convert to Christianity. Still Christians have the audacity to claim theirs is a religion of peace, tolerance, mercy, love , compassion etc. This may be what the Nazarene Jesus preached but his followers were quick once they had taken power to use their religious beliefs to crush all other religions where possible. It is odd how some Christian historians will erroneously claim that the various Pagan or Non-Christian Religions within the Roman Empire for example just eventually died out . These apologists and revisionists who are hard at work these days rewriting history to fit their own idealized, romanticized views of the history of Christianity and its overarching Mythology.

And these Christian apologist are even rewriting current events to fit with their Christian myths. For instance the Illegal/immoral War of Aggression and invasion and occupation of Iraq is falsely characterized as necessary and that the murder of one million Iraqis was worth it . These Christians argue that Iraqis first of all are not Christians and are not of European extraction and are characterized as being barbaric and uncivilized and therefore the armies of the Christian invaders had no responsibility to treat the Iraqi citizens as equals.

Odd that Andrew Bostom and others such as Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch or Pam Geller of Atlas Shrugs or Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, Bill O'Reilly , Sean Hannity etc. who preach against Islam don't see the hypocrisy and contradictions in their attacks on Islam. For instance they claim that even Jesus would approve of bombing Iraqi civilians and torturing detainees and using the new Christian Mercenaries such as Blackwater to kill indiscriminately in the name of the Christian God. Whether or not President Bush and Co. wanted to attack Iraq as part of Christian crusade is a moot point as the Generals on the ground and the American troops and the Mercenaries have been treating the War on Terror as a Holy War from the beginning after 9/11. The American military itself as we have noted has been infiltrated and is under the control of fanatical Evangelical Fundamentalists who see this war as the countdown to Armageddon or just part of their duty as Christians to convert or kill all Non-Christians.

Andrew Bostom argues that Muslims should acknowledge their misdeeds and crimes and denounce violence against Non-Muslims and to denounce the more egregious parts of Sharia law. Muslims should stand up for human rights and to treat women as equals and be more tolerant of homosexuals etc.

Given Andrew Bostom's argument this should also apply to Christians . Therefore all these pious Christians should publicly acknowledge their misdeeds and massacres and Wars of Aggression and their Inquisitions , their witch hunts their killing of hundreds of thousands of so called heretics. They should also take upon themselves that their 2000 years of preaching anti-Semitism led inevitably to the Shoah in which some six million Jews were massacred because they were believed to have formed a FIFTH Column not just in Europe but throughout the world acting as the Invisible Hand interfering in human history for their own benefit. Odd though how such a powerful and cunning group of people managed to spend most of their history living in poverty and being oppressed by Christians.

I mentioned the notion of a Fifth Column of Jews because similar things that were said about the the Jews are now being promulgated against the Muslims. The current Islamophobes characterize all Muslims as potential Jihadists who are just waiting for their opportunity to take down the governments of all the nations in which they reside which are not yet Muslim controlled states.

and Interview by FrontPageMagazine: Andrew Bostom: The Legacy of Jihad
PC: Given the nature of Islam as laid out by the Islamic authorities you have quoted, what is a Western policy toward Islam, including the sensitive issue of Muslim immigration to the West, consistent with these Islamic realities?

AB: I agree with the thrust of what Dr. Raphael Israeli described in his seminal analysis of modern jihad terrorism published in 2003. He proposes the creation of an Alliance of Western and Democratic States (AWADS), consisting of a nucleus of the United States, Canada, Australia, and Western Europe (and these core nations can sponsor other countries proven to conform to its rules and standards, for example, India), with the following six avowed "rules of engagement":

Strict control of immigration from Muslim countries without reliance on the "efforts" of the countries of origin, who have shown neither the will nor the means to stop this massive flow, much of it already illegal. This policy should include interception and routine unceremonious repatriation of the illegal immigrants themselves, and expulsion from AWADS nations of those who assist them.

Reciprocal arrangements for controlled immigration, tourism and educational exchanges between Muslim countries and AWADS nations to guarantee equivalent, unimpeded bilateral flow ? Muslim nationals to AWADS, AWADS nationals to Muslim countries ? devoid of characteristic Muslim discriminatory regulations towards other races, faiths, or nationalities.

Rendering various forms of economic, technical/infrastructural, health, agricultural, and educational assistance by AWADS to Muslim countries contingent upon basic conditions met by the applicants, including: accountability; progress in human rights; meaningful efforts at population control; renunciation of force/violence in dealing with other nations/communities; and monitoring and controlling incitement to hatred and violence in mosques and media outlets.

Terminating all military assistance and weapons sales by AWADS to non-member states, supplemented by a policy that any weapons-manufacturing third party which sells or transfers weapons to those regimes will itself forfeit the right to deal with AWADS members.

Mosque construction, as well as the building of other Muslim institutions in AWADS nations, particularly projects funded by Saudi Arabia, will be contingent upon reciprocal arrangements to construct religious institutions for other faiths in Muslim nations, including each country situated on the Arabian peninsula, and the binding commitment by all parties ? AWADS and non-members of AWADS ? that no incitement or hatred will be propagated in any of these religious institutions.

The importation into AWADS nations from Muslim countries of cultural commodities and assets ? books, movies, art shows and exhibits, performing arts groups, clerics and missionaries, print media or audio/video tapes ? must also be reciprocal, contingent upon the unrestricted flow of similar AWADS assets into Muslim countries- and all such assets will be required by law to be devoid of messages that disseminate hate.

PC: Given the resistance among Americans to anything that smacks of discrimination, what steps might we take to emasculate the doctrine of jihad?

AB: Fifteen years ago (September, 1990), Bat Ye?or made these prescient observations regarding what needed to be done by the Muslim leadership and clerical and intellectual elites to initiate an Islamic version of Vatican II, a sort of "Mecca-Cairo-Qom-Najaf One (I)" self-examination, mea culpa, and reform process:

This effort cannot succeed without a complete recasting of mentalities, the desacralization of the historic jihad and an unbiased examination of Islamic imperialism. Without such a process, the past will continue to poison the present and inhibit the establishment of harmonious relationships. When all is said and done, such self-criticism is hardly exceptional. Every scourge, such as religious fanaticism, the crusades, the inquisition, slavery, apartheid, colonialism, Nazism and, today, communism, are analyzed, examined, and exorcized in the West. Even Judaism ? harmless in comparison with the power of the Church and the Christian empires ? caught, in its turn, in the great modernization movement, has been forced to break away from some traditions. It is inconceivable that Islam, which began in Mecca and swept through three continents, should alone avoid a critical reflection on the mechanisms of its power and expansion. The task of assessing their history must be undertaken by the Muslims themselves . . . There is room to hope that the ending of the contentious dhimmi past will open the way to harmonization of the whole human family.

Sadly, a decade and one half later, most Muslim (and many Western) intellectuals continue to justify the concept of jihad as an inoffensive spiritual engagement with one's own evil instincts, or purely "defensive" combat for "justice," and dhimmitude is still completely denied, ignored or obfuscated. Therefore non-Muslims of all kinds who have been victimized and continue to be victimized by these heinous Muslim institutions must abandon their silence and be encouraged to describe this history openly in the hope that this process will elicit a sincere movement of acknowledgement, reform, and reconciliation within the world Muslim community.

Bostom's conclusion is that Islam is unrepentant and refuses to reform and therefore the United States and other non-Muslim countries in the West should basically declare economic war if not armed warfare against all Islamic nations which do not abide by Bostom's basic demands and principles.

Admittedly, we seem generations away from such an overall process now. Thus in the interim, those preaching the bigoted and murderous doctrines of jihad within the West should be deported. Moreover, we in the West must press our political and religious leaders to demand that such bellicose, hate-mongering "educational" practices be abolished in all Islamic nations, without exception, under threat of severe, broad ranging economic sanctions.

What if we pass a law to ban any hate speech in the Churches in Christian countries.So that Evangelical Christians could be censured for hate speech against Islam and other religions and hate speech against Homosexuals and feminists and liberals and against current governments.

It also should be noted that Bostom and others who preach their message of hate against Islam refuse or are deluded into believing that Christianity and Western Civilization has always been in favor of real justice and mutual respect and human rights etc. They forget it seems that women didn't get the vote til the 1920s, and still do not have complete equality as in the United States' refusal to pass the ERA: Equal Rights Amendment or that the rights of Black Americans and other minorities were not protected by law til the 1960s-America is still rife with sexism and racism and homophobia. So where is all this tolerance that these Christians talk about. If the Religious Right had their way only Christians would been permitted to run for public office or to perform certain jobs such as teaching and homosexuals could be discriminated against with impunity.

also see;

"The Legacy of Jihad in Palestine" By Andrew G. Bostom by Dec. 7, 2004

EndNote: Naming Names- European Racists and Fascists Meeting in Brussels -From Pam Geller's Atlas Shrugs commenting on the Counterjihad in Brussels 2007

On October 18 and 19, over 70 organizations and individuals joined together in the European and Flemish Parliaments to create a European network of activists from 14 nations to resist the increasing Islamisation of their countries. Keynote speakers included Bat Ye’or, author of Eurabia and Dhimmitude and Robert Spencer, author of Religion of Peace, Why Christianity is and Islam Isn’t. Additional speakers included David Littman, Dr. Arieh Eldad, member of the Israeli Knesset, Dr. Patrick Sookhdeo, Director of the Institute for the Study of Islam and Christianity, Sam Solomon, Director of Fellowship of Faith for Muslims and author of the Charter of Muslim Understanding, Dr. Marc Cogen, Ghent University, Dr. Andrew Bostom, author of The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism, and Laurent Artur du Plessis, author of a forthcoming book on shariah finance. Many participants worldwide also attended the first day of presentations online through webex

The most fascinating portion of the morning program was a series of country reports on the status of the Islamization and the creeping sharia in their respective countries. Paul Belien of Belgium, Stefan Herre of Germany, Nidra Poller of France, reports from the UK (the worst), Ted Ekeroth and Reinhard Fomi from Sweden, Lars Hedegaard from Denmark (extraordinary presentation), Jens Anfindsen from Norway, KGS from Finland, Johannes Janasen from Holland, Adriana Bolchini Gaigher of Italy (what passion!), Arnaud Dotezac from Switzerland, Traian Ungureanu of Romania (gave excellent advice how to bite back at the jihad), Austria.
also see:

The Church’s Doctrine of “Perpetual Servitude” was Worse than “Dhimmitude” by Danios at Nov. 30, 2009

Andrew Bostom Takes on Michael Kruse–Loses by Garibaldi at Sept. 16, 2009

Lost from Lebanon
The case of Brigitte Gabriel, anti-Muslim bigot and pro-Israel apologist, highlights the indignity of those that celebrate military aggression against ordinary civilians, writes Franklin Lamb* Al-Ahram March 12, 2008

"A Case Study in Sincere Hypocrisy: Brigitte Gabriel" by Mooneye at, April 14, 2009

Brigitte Gabriel is a notorious apologist for the fascist Phalange group, Kataeb, and the terrorist group, the South Lebanon Army (SLA), who were responsible for the Sabra and Shatila massacres that slaughtered 1700 to 2000 Palestinians (mostly women and chidren).

"Brigitte Gabriel on Terrorism? It Takes One to Know One" The peoples Voices June 29, 2007

and so it goes,

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