Thursday, September 30, 2010

"Islamophobia For Dummiez" And Muslim Americans Told To Remove Remains From NY Cemetery And Pedophile Pastor And JDL Hate-Crime

Anyway here an enlightening and entertaining video dealing with Islam and Islamophobia.

Islamophobia For Dummiez
Ground Zero Mosque 2 BARACK OBAMA Jon Stewart, Colbert, Olbermann

MuhaddithDotOrg | September 16, 2010

Ground Zero Mosque Part 2 BARACK OBAMA - Stewart, Colbert, Olbermann. Islamophobia for Dummies.

This includes content from from the August 16th episodes of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Colbert Report with Stephen Colbert, and Countdown with Keith Olbermann.

Topics include:
President Barack Obama statements about the Mosque
Politics vs. Freedom of Religion and the Constitution
Who is inspiring hatred

Another AntiGay Pastor accused of using his position of authority to having sex with /taking advantage of young boys in his congregation .

It's just another example of the hypocrisy of many of these MegaChurch profiteers. It is also an important story as a lesson that parents and children need to be aware that these things happen and all too often there are those who act as enablers for this sort of sick person.

But this story has gotten a lot of traction because the interviewer Don Lemon reveals he was a victim of a pedophile and so he says he knows the sort of routine and patter of pedophiles as they slowly lure their victims.The Pastor Long defenders barely notice what he has said or understand the implication of Don Lemon bringing this up during the interview. He seems to have reached his limit as the Pastor Long supporters defend their Pastor they speak as if they had been rehearsed and or that they belong to what maybe essentially a cult. Their adoration of him knows no limits as they talk about him as a latter day Prophet.

Homophobic Megachurch Pastor Accused of Exploiting Teenage Boys by Robert Steinback Hatewatch at Southern poverty Law Center Sept 22, 2010

LEMON: Let me tell you what got my attention about this and I have never admitted this on television. I'm a victim of a pedophile when I was a kid -- someone who was much older than me. And those are the things that they do, the language. This doesn't make you gay if you do this.

So when someone starts to say that, you start to perk up and go -- ooh. Four people have said the same exact story and using the same buzz words. How do people come up with those stories? Did that ever cross any of your minds, Gabrielle, when you heard that four people who have come up with the same exact story who -- two of them know each other, the third one doesn't really know the other one, and the fourth one doesn't know any of them?

CNN Anchor Don Lemon Tells Eddie Long Supporters "I am a Victim of a Pedophile" By karoli at Crooks and Liars Sept. 26,2010

The members of the church sound like they are in a cult-this appears more apparent after Don Lemon tells them he was a victim of a pedophile.

Islamophobes even offended by a Muslim-Cemetery in their neighborhood- More good Christians??? They even hate dead Muslims. And yet the hysterical giddy Islamophobe profiteers make up excuses or even encourage this sort of outrage. I live across the street from a Catholic cemetery with its big in your face bleeding Jesus on a cross and dozens of Blue Madonnas - as I am not Catholic should I be upset and what if I did feel offended I still have no right to protest about the cemetery .
"Even their dead shall not rest" if Pam Geller and Robert Spencer And Newt Gingrich have their way they buy into whatever prejudice and hate will make the most money or get the most votes .

another story of Islamophobia growing in this case the non-Muslim Americans insist that their neighbors who are Muslim-Americans dig up the remains from the Muslim-Cemetery in Sidney New York. The cemetery is legal and is on private property but their good Christian neighbors won't back down. Is this another one of those vague American values that Muslims don't have the same rights as Non-Muslim Americans.

Kamran Pasha: Digging Up Muslim Graves at, Sept.28,2010

...the townsfolk of Sidney, New York trying to force their Muslim neighbors to dig up their local cemetery...

A local Sufi group in Sidney received permission from the town to bury Muslim dead on their private property in 2005. This tiny cemetery has stood for years without incident. But with the recent onslaught of Islamophobia gripping the country, local politicians have decided to ride the wave of bigotry. Town supervisor Bob McCarthy has led a movement to get the Muslims to dig up their “unauthorized” cemetery. When asked what law prohibited the Muslims from having a burial site on their own land, his response was: “I don’t know what the exact law is.”

In fact, there is no law in New York prohibiting grave sites on private property. So the town leaders have gotten their attorneys to parse through law books to find something they could use to unearth the Muslim graves. The closest they have come is an obscure regulation that prohibits cemeteries on mortgaged land. The Muslim group is now trying to either subdivide their property to exclude the graves, or pay off their remaining mortgage (under $200,000) to prevent their loved ones from being torn from their final resting places.

Among those calling for the removal of the Muslim cemetery are “Tea Party” supporters who have suggested that the Muslim group is a “for profit” venture and should be denied First Amendment religious protection. Property rights don’t seem to matter much to these alleged champions of liberty when Muslims are involved.

The hatred evident in this small-town drama is so clear and shocking that it truly gives me pause as to where the people of this great country are going. I have been saddened by the rising anti-Muslim mania in the past few months because this isn’t the America I grew up in, nor the one the Founders fought and died for.

As my fellow Americans turn more and more away from their principles and embrace the passions of a xenophobic mob, I question whether that country is gone forever. Whether “government of the people, by the people, for the people” has failed Lincoln’s hopes and has indeed perished from the Earth.

This cemetery incident is just the latest in the “summer of hate” that reached its zenith with the shrill cries against the Park 51 Muslim community center in Manhattan. A center built by liberal Muslims to promote an Islam of peace and brotherhood became re-imagined in the delusional eyes of bigots as a “victory mosque” built by Muslim extremists in honor of Al-Qaeda.

What is fascinating and telling about both incidents is that those who have been targeted by the fear mongers are Sufi Muslims, mystics who celebrate God as the spirit of Love. The Sufis are the polar opposites of Al-Qaeda and its band of murderers, promoting a progressive Islam that embraces other religions warmly and seeks human reconciliation rather than conflict. Muslim fundamentalists have been attacking Sufis for centuries, as their brand of progressive Islam outshines the ugly corruption of religion that the fundamentalists want to promote. And now the Muslim fundamentalists’ war against Sufism has been joined by fanatics of other religions and communities.

Anyone who has read the beautiful Sufi poetry of Rumi (ironically, the best selling poet in America today) will find an Islam of humility, of compassion, of love for women and reverence for the divine feminine, of not just tolerance, but joyful embrace of other religions. It is an Islam of music, of smiling faces, of laughter and companionship, not a dour Islam of anger and cruelty. This is the true heart of Islam that allowed the religion to succeed and become a global civilization, despite the best efforts of fundamentalists to poison the faith with violence and stupidity.

This Islam of love, not the Islam of hate, is what is being rejected by people like the town leaders of Sidney and the opponents of Park 51. It is this very Islam that is the greatest threat, because it is like clear water. It reflects back the truth of those who look upon it. And the bigots only see their own ugliness mirrored back to them. In demanding that Muslims dig up their graves, the leaders of Sidney have only unearthed the graves of their own hearts and revealed all the rot and decay within their own souls.

and more crazy talk from Beck as he says Darwin was the Father of modern racism and therefore responsible for the Holocaust/Shoah and for Apartheid in the US and South Africa and ultimately responsible for the KKK, lynchings, slavery, and the bombing of Churches and Schools in the American South for putting 41 bullets into a black man in NY killed /executed by New York's finest or some white kids having fun dragging a black man tied to the back of their car and so on and on...

"Glenn Beck: Charles Darwin 'The Father Of Modern-Day Racism'" (VIDEO) at HuffingtonPost Aug. 28, 2010

Glenn Beck called Charles Darwin "the father of modern-day racism" on Thursday's edition of his Fox News program.

Beck made the inflammatory comment about the man credited with introducing the theory of scientific evolution at the culmination of a rant on the contentious topic of race.

Mediate reports:

After explaining the significance of the illustration of a slave in shackles reading "Am I Not a Man and a Brother?" made famous accompanying the abolitionist poem "My Countrymen in Chains" as "the Lance Armstrong bracelets of the day," he took on the history of the man who made the illustration into a mass-produced medallion, Josiah Wedgwood. His story and that story of the image were an anecdote chosen to illustrate the aforementioned four forces elemental in American history. Government and religion work together, government and religion are driven apart, and those dynamics result in things like slavery and the abolition thereof.

"His great grandson plants the seed that leads to progressivism, eugenics," said Beck in coming full circle in taking aim at Wedgewood. "You know who Wedgewood's grandson was? Charles Darwin, the father of modern-day racism."

I have noticed some readers who have left comments at various sites (possibly Trolls/Neo-Cons/racists)arguing that The civil-liberties organization Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) doesn't cover hate crimes being committed by Jewish Americans so here's a story of a JDL shooting and questions about whether it was just some random confrontation or could it be considered a Hate Crime.

(The logic of Islamophobes and other hate mongers is usually twisted and unsound and hypocritical or as following different logic or standards for different people even though all things remain equal.
Logic Arab or Muslim kills a member of JDL since JDL is made up of Jews this must be a hate crime.
Islamophobes ask: If a Jewish American member of JDL shoots an Arab-American is it even a crime??? )

JDL leader shoots Arab-American Faith Said but no anti-Arab or anti-Muslim Hate Crimes in America???

JDL Leader’s Shooting Trial to Resume Next Month in Michigan Hatewatch Southern Poverty Law Center Sept. 23,2010

Was it road rage or self defense? Or maybe even a politically motivated act of violence?

That’s what a jury will decide when the trial of Jewish Defense League organizer Carl Mintz begins on Oct. 14.

Mintz, 27, a state chapter organizer for the JDL in Michigan, is charged in the shooting of a 20-year-old Arab-American named Faith Said. The prosecution’s first attempt at a conviction ended with a mistrial in August when three members of the jury refused to acquit Mintz.

According to local police reports, Said approached Mintz’s car after the two came to rest at a stoplight in Farmington Hills, Mich. Said got out of his car and walked toward Mintz, loudly criticizing him for tapping his brakes as he approached the light. Mintz then reached for his concealed handgun and shot Said in the arm. Mintz is claiming self-defense, but prosecutors note that the light had already turned green when Mintz opened fire and that he could have simply driven away.


Notes and Related articles

"Beckel and Rehab Rip Geller a New One" via Sept. 28.2010

Malayasian Ministry prepared to send lecturers to allay Islamophobia in US Star On Line via Islamophobia Today Sept. 26,2010

Mayor ,NYPD and the Media all in on conspiracy to underestimate crowd at Geller/Spencer 9/11 anti-Mosque Rally
They claim there were approximately 40,000 at their protest while others including NYPD say there were up to 2,000 attendees.

Spencer and Geller still Yapping about their “Historic” Rally Sept. 17, at

Randall Terry Planning Koran Tearing For Tea Partiers (VIDEO) Quran Tearing Training for Oct. 7 with Randall Terry at Talking Points Muckraker Sept. 27,2010

FLASHBACK: In 2006 joint appearance, Beck appeared to call Imam Rauf a "good Muslim" by Ben Dimiero, August 23,2010

Anderson Cooper Takes On Anti-Mosque GOP Candidate (VIDEO) Eric Kleefeld by TPM Talking Points Media, Sept. 27,2010 September 27, 2010

22 men sought after far-right protest clashes at via Sept. 24,2010

Yay! Ed Husain is leaving the country Sept. 21, 2010

Drunk Man Pees On Prayer Rugs At Queens Mosque" at, Aug. 26, 2010

36 Muslim graves desecrated in Strasbourg at, Sept. 24, 2010

and according to Robert Spencer and Pam Geller cutting off a pig's head and dropping it off at a Mosques is either just a hoax staged by devious local Muslims or it is just teenagers or young adults drunk and having fun there is no way according to Geller & Spencer that it was Hate Crime against Muslims. (how could it be if as the Islamophobes believe that all Muslims should be feared and hated and are America's No.1 enemy including those Muslims living in America who are involved in a Stealth Jihad see Spencer & Andrew McCarthy ).

Severed Pig’s head Dumped in front of Cambridge mosque Loonwatch via Sept. 24, 2010

"Burnley College bans students and visitors from wearing veil" at via Sept. 24,2010

and : Call for Burnley College to rethink headwear ban from via Sept. 24, 2010

"Netherlands: Christian Democrat leader rejects Lubbers’ criticisms, insists on pursuing deal with Wilders "Via IslamophobiaToday Aug. 27, 2010

The War On Sharia Started Long Before You Ever Heard 'Ground Zero Mosque' Talking Points TPM Muckraker,Sept. 23, 2010

and so it goes,

Wednesday, September 29, 2010

"Malaysian Gov't Send Islamic Scholars To USA To Help Heal "Islamophobes Such As Pam Geller " " & Beck Once Again Compares Obama To Hitler

Screenshot photo from Pam Geller's blog Atlas Shrugs
Offensive image for educational purposes.

Sorry about this but posting is necessary to prove Pam Geller lied in a discussion on Fox about how she about the worst Muslim Basher on the WEB bar none . She like her co-conspirators just love offending Muslims . Then they claim it is a matter of "Free Speech" but does her website cross the line.

Photo protest sign at Pam Geller's Rally on 9/11 2010.

"They multiply like rats, infesting city after city bringing their Mufti Inspired hatred back into Europe to lay the ground for a new holocaust."

Quote speaking about Muslims in Europe: from "This new hatred comes from Muslim immigrants. The Jewish people are afraid now." Pam Geller's Atlas Shrugs, Feb. 24,2010

"We qualify to send our experts as we have the experience of administering a country which is multiethnic, multicultural and multireligious like the US," said Saiuddin. - Bernama
quote from:"Malayasian Ministry prepared to send lecturers to allay Islamophobia in US StarOnLine via Islamophobia Today Sept.26, 2010.

First A Note about Website Which is a great resource for tracking the anti-Muslim bashing crowd who thanks to a gutless Mainstream Media have now managed to move into the mainstream . Fox News , AM Talk Radio and CNN and others who now treat these Hate Mongers and opportunists as if they were truly objective pundits and researchers. Whether it is Glenn Beck, or Pam Geller or Newt Gingrich they read from the same playbook and harp on their various talking Points . is a blogzine run by a motley group of hate-allergic bloggers to monitor and expose the web’s plethora of anti-Muslim loons, wackos, and conspiracy theorists.

While we find the sheer stupidity and outrageousness of the loons to be a source of invaluable comedy, we also recognize the seriousness of the danger they represent as dedicated hatemongers. And so, while our style reflects our bemusement, our content is fact checked and our sources well vetted making sure is a reliable educational – if entertaining – resource on the rambunctious underworld of Muslim-bashing.

Anyway here are some of the basic premises I've put together of the "Islamophobia" groups and individuals.

# The Islamophobe begins with the premise that Islam and all Muslims are involved in a world-wide conspiracy to make Islam the dominate religion/ or ideology and reducing all Non-Muslims to a form of slavery or feudalism referred to as "Dhimmitude" (see Bat Ye'or , Andrew C. McCarthy, Daniels Pipes, David Horowitz, Robert Spencer, Pam Geller etc.).

# The Islamophobes characterize Islam as basically "evil" .

# The Islamophobes argue that Islam is an ideology which plans to undermine Western Civilization in order to then bring the West under Islamic Law of Sharia. Sharia they characterize by the harshest and most barbaric forms of Sharia which is not how Sharia is followed in all Muslim countries.

# The Islamophobes characterize Islam as being a political ideology rather than a "Real Religion".

# The Islamophobes argue that : If Islam is not a "religion" then it can not claim the rights and protections guaranteed to all religions in the USA

# The Islamophobes believe all Muslims owe their allegiance to Islam and not to the nations in which they live .

# The Islamophobes are also the first one's to claim that there is no such thing in America as "Islamophobia".

# To complete their conspiracy theory they now promote the rumor that Obama is one not an American Citizen
and two Obama is and has always been a Muslim and a radical leftist.

After all that the "Islamophobes" conspiratorial thinking and fears of Islamic machinations are only restricted by each one's imagination.

also check out: Islamophobia

Here's the sort of racist rants and reporting as found on the "Queen of the Islamophobes" Pam Geller's blog Atlas Shrugs -

This rant sounds a lot like the sort of rhetoric used by Anti-Semites to demonize and dehumanize the Jews. The Muslim horde and "They multiply like rats, infesting city after city bringing their Mufti Inspired hatred back into Europe to lay the ground for a new holocaust."

"This new hatred comes from Muslim immigrants. The Jewish people are afraid now." Atlas Shrugs, Feb. 24,2010

And as overwhelmed as Europe is with a hostile invading army -- the Euro-Med project is slated to flood Europe with an overwhelming jihad army. Under the Euro-Med partnership, Islamic countries will have full freedom of movement and be able to send millions of Muslims, without papers, into Europe. This is why America saved Europe? All the blood and treasure to deliver Europe into the jaws of the Muslim horde.

In dense Muslim communities in the US we are witnessing the same ugly trend.

Armaros correctly declares,

"The REICH is on the march, Jews are violated, intimidated and attacked while the gentiles are denied study of the holocaust by Muslim hordes who are now involved in a Europe wide campaign to remove holocaust education from societies and who now are calling the shots in the political world. They multiply like rats, infesting city after city bringing their Mufti Inspired hatred back into Europe to lay the ground for a new holocaust.

Ilan Halimi, Malmo, the London Marches, the Mancherster banning of Israeli speakers are all previews of the Gazafication of Europe city by city, town by town. All part of the plan to re-ignite antisemitism once more and to change Europe into a Islamo- socialist superstate.

Europe is importing their new Nazi occupiers. At least back in the day they had to come in tanks. Now they are brought in via multiculturalist fanatics who want to destroy their own societies in the service of Islam. Islam the new socialism, the new hatred and the new reality.

What gain can these savage hordes bring to a Western Country????

Do they create jobs? No. Do they work? No. Do they enrich the culture with their JIhad, misogyny, genital mutilation and honor killings?

Do they bring any positive value to anybody? None. They are scum. They are like the orcs in Lord of the Rings, destroy, consume and infect everything in their path. What advantage can they provide aside from votes to discredited leftist politicians who used to champion the USSR and would champion any force no matter how evil and depraved for their own deluded totalitarian goals.

and Now fun with Pam Geller being throttled in a match of wits unfortunately Pam came unarmed as usual.

"Beckel and Rehab Rip Geller a New One" via Sept. 28.2010

Bob Beckel and Ahmed Rehab were on Fox Business News’ program Money Rocks with Eric Bolling alongside right-wingers Pamela Geller, David Webb and Fox host Bill Hemmer. It was an interesting program and I am baffled as to why Pamela brought it to our attention by posting it because she got absolutely butchered and exposed!

For the longest time we complained that people weren’t using the information in our articles exposing her crazy, wingnut, moonbat, wacko, and lunatic blogging on Atlas Shrugs.

To our dismay she actually started receiving a wider (Tea Party mostly) audience and influence with the big wigs in the Republican party. The times that she was on TV no one was adequately challenging her with the exception of the Alyona Show, but the past month or so she has been getting challenged in both print and on TV by people who are using the info. we have documented on her.

She gets called out beautifully in the beginning here by Ahmed Rehab who takes a jab at Bolling for saying that Geller is his “good friend,”

Rehab: You just called her your good friend, and I don’t know if you’ve visited her anti-Muslim blog any time recently, Atlas Shrugs, where you can see a video that she posted where she is implying that Muslims have sex with goats, and suggesting they wear Muhammad condoms, I don’t know if you can call her your good friend…

Geller interrupts: That’s a lie, you know it’s a lie.

Rehab: We have a screenshot of that, you’re a lying bigot.

Geller: You don’t have a screenshot of that.

Rehab: Do you also deny that you put a picture of the Prophet Muhammad with a pig for a face?

Geller: yea, no…that was part of Everybody Draw Muhammad Day…do you condemn…

Rehab: Don’t evade the question, you are one of the most anti-Muslim bigots out on the internet and your blog consistently is filled with anti-Muslim statements…

[talking over]

Bolling: Pam hold on, Pam hold on, go ahead Rehab,

Rehab: Well, Pamela also suggested we should nuke Mecca, and this was done on her blog February 24, 2010.

Geller: I did not say it. [LW: actually you did Pamela, click here.]

Rehab: She also suggested that Obama is an anti-Semite, pimp and Jihadist…

Geller: Oh yeah, uh, I believe that is true.

Rehab: She is a certified loon. She’s a bigot of the highest order and you’re calling her your good friend Eric, so I don’t know how you feel about that now.

Bolling went on to justify his friendship with nut case Pamela Geller saying he “knows her” and then he goes on to talk about his personal experience with the World Trade Center and how he “was there.” He then exposes his bias saying he is “angry” with Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and his group for building their mosque near Ground Zero, which he thinks is so close you can throw a baseball there. Yeah, maybe if you have the arm of Roberto Clemente! Where is Fox getting these people?

Geller tried to strike back at Rehab with her guilt by association smear tactics, trying to bring up CAIR and repeating Hamas as many times as possible in one breathe, but it seems she hyperventilated and was unable to make the point because Rehab straight up asked her, “what does that got to do with the Mosque?” Her response was epic, bumbling idiocy.

Rehab: Pamela’s at the forefront of those who are claiming this is a victory mosque at Ground Zero, which is a blatant lie, so I am asking her right now, what can she tell us in terms of truth that Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf had anything to do with hijackers in a plane?

Bolling: hang on I want to bring in the panel.

FOX Business: Ahmed Rehab debates Islamophobe Pamela Geller on Park51

and see:
"This new hatred comes from Muslim immigrants. The Jewish people are afraid now." Pam Geller at Atlas Shrugs Feb, 24,2010

"Malayasian Ministry prepared to send lecturers to allay Islamophobia in US StarOnLine via Islamophobia Today Sept.26, 2010.

TEMERLOH: The Higher Education Ministry is prepared to send lecturers who are experts in Islamic studies to explain Islam to check Islamophobia in the United States and other parts of the world.

Its deputy minister Datuk Saifuddin Abdullah said the country had many experts in the field who could correct the misconception about Islam among Americans and other westerners.

In fact, he said, many lecturers from Malaysia were once lecturers or guest lecturers at foreign universities.

"Whether Islamophobia is deliberately created by the West or they simply fail to understand the religion, it is important for us to correct the misconception about Islam.

"Otherwise, Islamphobia will create problems, especially for companies owned or products produced by Muslims which may be feared or turned away by the West," he told reporters after attending an Aidilfitri open house in Kampung Lebak Seberang, here, Sunday.

He was earlier asked to comment on Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak's willingness to send experts in Islamic studies to correct misconception about Islam among Americans and other westerners, expressed during his meeting with US president Barack Obama in New York recently.

Saifuddin said Islamophobia, which is prejudice against or an irrational fear of Islam and Muslims, had become a phenomenon in the US since the Sept 11, 2001 attack.

He is worried that Islamophobia would continue to prevail and become a threat to Muslims all over the world, including those studying in institutions in western countries.

"We qualify to send our experts as we have the experience of administering a country which is multiethnic, multicultural and multireligious like the US," said Saiuddin. - Bernama

Pam Geller, Robert Spencer, David Horowitz and Daniel Pipes claim the Mayor New York the NYPD and the Media (except Fox) all in on conspiracy to underestimate crowd at Geller/Spencer 9/11 anti-Mosque Rally.

They claim there were approximately 40,000 at their protest while others including NYPD say there were no more than 2,000 attendees.

Spencer and Geller still Yapping about their “Historic” Rally Sept 11, by at Sept. 21,2010.

Robert Spencer and his goonish friend Pamela Geller, leaders of the hate group SIOA and FDI are claiming that the size of their rally on September 11th, which they billed as the biggest thing ever was huge.

The fact is that it was really not that big, let alone historic. It was definitely not in the 40,000 or more range as Geller and Spencer claim. In fact according to the AP it wasn’t larger than a thousand.

Charles Johnson sums it up well:
Anti-Mosque Rally Attendance: Less Than 1,000

According to the Associated Press, attendance at Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer’s international hate rally was less than 1,000: The Associated Press: Dueling demonstrations begin after 9/11 memorial.

After the ceremony, around 1,000 activists rallied about five blocks from the site of the 2001 attacks to support the proposed Islamic community center. A smaller group of opponents rallied nearby, chanting, “USA, USA.”

Glenn Beck on his radio show promoting book The Red Network the author of which was pro-Nazi.Beck finds a book which agrees with his own take on Obama , Progressives , Liberal Churches and the left and doesn't bother to do even a Google search to check the author's credentials and her political affiliations and ideology which she support.

Glenn Beck once again compares president Obama and his administration to Hitler and the Nazis and Stalin and the Communist Party

Glenn Beck claims Obama is taking America down the same church-state path as the Nazis. No really.By David Neiwert Crooks and Liars Sept 25, 2010.

Glenn Beck's Bizarro World show yesterday on Fox: Um, wait, lessee, isn't the state the same thing as the government? So how do you keep it out ... ?, OK, don't you mean to say that church-state separation was actually about keeping the state out of the church? And wasn't it equally about keeping the church out of state business? .... Oh, nevermind. It's hopeless.

I'd like to think the confusion was unintended. But you watch the segment, and you realize that it was just as likely intentional. It certainly fit in with the perversely and proudly irrational argument Beck presented over the course of the show. In essence, this was it:

* Hitler seized control of the churches during the course of the Nazi reign in the 1930s and '40s.
* The exact same thing is happening when progressives like Jim Wallis bring "social justice" doctrines to American churches.
* The only way we can prevent this from happening is to elect Tea Party Republicans to control of the House in November.

Yep, that's pretty much it. And people lap this stuff up.

The key moment came when an audience member stood up and asked the question Beck had been gearing them up to ask all hour long, and he was answered by Kitty Werthmann, a right-wing Austrian who survived the Nazi regime and now loves to compare Obama to Hitler:

Audience member: There seem to be a great deal of similarities between early Nazi socialism and what we're going through right now in this country. I mean, what's the answer? Where -- how do we turn that back?

Werthmann: Well, right now we are very blessed that this is an election year. Uh, educate the voters. It's already happening. So we can take at least the U.S. House back, and hopefully the Senate.

Really, sometimes you just have to gape in wonder.

But the really disturbing aspect of all this is: What are these people going to do if they lose in November?

We're going to have millions of Beckians out there who will believe that a Nazi state is about to descend upon them. And God only knows how they will react then.

End-Notes & Related Articles

Radical Pro-Lifer Randall Terry using paranoia and hysteria over Islamic Sharia Islamophobes Invented Controversy

Randall Terry Planning Koran Tearing For Tea Partiers (VIDEO) Quran Tearing Training for Oct. 7 with Randall Terry at Talking Points Muckraker Sept. 27,2010

Anderson Cooper Takes On Anti-Mosque GOP Candidate (VIDEO) Eric Kleefeld by TPM Talking Points Media, Sept. 27,2010 September 27, 2010

22 men sought after far-right protest clashes at via Sept. 24,2010

Yay! Ed Husain is leaving the country Sept. 21, 2010

Drunk Man Pees On Prayer Rugs At Queens Mosque" at, Aug. 26, 2010

36 Muslim graves desecrated in Strasbourg at, Sept. 24, 2010

and according to Robert Spencer and Pam Geller cutting off a pig's head and dropping it off at a Mosques is just teenagers young adults drunk and having fun there is way that it was Hate Crime against Muslims. (how could it be if the Islamophobes believe that all Muslims should be feared and hated.

Severed Pig’s head Dumped in front of Cambridge mosque Loonwatch via Sept. 24, 2010

"Burnley College bans students and visitors from wearing veil" at via Sept. 24,2010

and : Call for Burnley College to rethink headwear ban
from via
Sept. 24, 2010

"Netherlands: Christian Democrat leader rejects Lubbers’ criticisms, insists on pursuing deal with Wilders "Via IslamophobiaToday Aug. 27, 2010

The War On Sharia Started Long Before You Ever Heard 'Ground Zero Mosque' Talking Points TPM Muckraker,Sept. 23, 2010

and so it goes,

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Randall Terry's " Tearing The Qur'an Instruction" Video & Anti-Muslim "Hate Crimes" The Acts of Drunks & The Mentally ill??? Victory Mosques???

Anderson Cooper tries to tell GOP candidate that she is wrong that in fact all religions have built houses of worship when they conquered lands and indigenous people.

She argues only Muslims do this not Christians.
Anderson rattles her cage telling her that when Christians took over Rome they destroyed all Pagan Temples and killed tens of thousands of so-called Pagans.

She then suggest that Anderson Cooper is anti-Religion or Anti-Christian (ah the ghosts of McCarthyism arise from the grave)

Anderson Cooper Takes On Anti-Mosque GOP Candidate (VIDEO) Eric Kleefeld by TPM Talking Points Media, Sept. 27,2010

Radical Pro-Lifer Randall Terry using paranoia and hysteria over Islamic Sharia Islamophobes Invented Controversy

Welcome to the bizarro world of the Islamophobes and opportunists.
How to rip apart poster sized pages of the Qur'an for publicity -five minutes of fame.
Is he hoping for some nasty confrontations. Like Nazi street theater.
Hegel we are told says history is the "Struggle for recognition " by individuals and states.(Fukuyama End of History ,p. 145) Being nice doesn't cut it.

Randall Terry Planning Koran Tearing For Tea Partiers (VIDEO) Quran Tearing Training for Oct. 7 with Randall Terry at Talking Points Muckraker Sept. 27,2010

Anti-abortion activist Randall Terry is upping the ante on his as-yet widely unknown campaign against Islam by creating a video instructing Tea Party leaders how to pull their own Koran-tearing stunts and gairner media attention.

"To my fellow Tea Party activists, listen to me: you're about to see instructions on how to get into real battles, not just in front of our computers, not just blogging, but to go to the public square like Samuel Adams and like other great patriots did," Terry says in the video.

The video is part of Terry's campaign for anti-Islam activists to rip passages of the Koran printed on posters at the potential location of the Cordoba House Islamic Center in New York, in Washington D.C. and in other cities on Oct. 6 and 7.

"The truth of the matter is, if you just do this, with a bold and stout heart, with just you and one other person, just the two of you, chances are you're going to get an enormous amount of coverage, and your voice will be heard by thousands, maybe tens or hundreds of thousands," Terry says in the video.

Terry, the founder of Operation Rescue, is infamous for his attention seeking stunts, including serenading Elena Kagan during his protest of her nomination to the Supreme Court and serving reporters beer and hot wings during press conferences.

On the anniversary of Sept. 11, Terry and a handful of activists ripped pages of the Koran outside of the White House.

Terry says he wants to call attention to what he calls the anti-Jewish and anti-Christian parts of the Koran as well as "our need to defy sharia law, while we still have the freedom to do so." Terry instructs tea party organizers to hold press conferences to either crumple up, tear or just drop pages of the Koran on Oct. 7. The video features Terry's two companions crumpling and tearing posters featuring passages of the Koran.

His effort comes in the midst of an ongoing campaign by some on the right against Sharia, which they say threatens the Constitution.

"We want to put Muslim leaders around the world on the hot seat for the way they're treating Christians in their countries," Terry said.

And Now a word on Glenn Beck flip-flopping over Imam Rauf whom he praised and now condemns- why for better TV ratings or to incite more acts of violence against Muslim-Americans.

FLASHBACK: In 2006 joint appearance, Beck appeared to call Imam Rauf a "good Muslim" by Ben Dimiero, August 23,2010

One of the main lines of attack in the never-ending conservative freak-out over the plan to build an Islamic community center in downtown Manhattan has been attempting to smear the developers of the center -- Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf in particular -- as "radical." In their usual despicable fashion, conservative media figures have worked hard to blur the line between the terrorists who attacked us on 9-11 and the moderate Muslims who are behind the planned center.

One of the loudest voices in conservatives' fight against the center has been Glenn Beck, who has specifically targeted Imam Rauf with blatant falsehoods and hypocritical attacks in a desperate attempt to smear him as a radical.

Additionally, among other offensive comments, Beck has asked, "after you've killed 3,000 people you're going to now build your mosque?" He's also absurdly labeled the center an "actual danger" and suggested it is an "Allah-tells-me-to-blow-up-America mosque." Though we -- and many other outlets -- have repeatedly pointed out that Rauf is widely viewed as a moderate and has often denounced the extremists who carry out violent attacks in the name of Islam, Beck and his fellow demagogues continue to push the dishonest attack.

But Beck does not need to take our word for it that Imam Rauf is a moderate who distances himself from radicals -- Rauf told Beck as much while sitting at the same table with him during a 2006 discussion on ABC's Good Morning America.

During the ABC segment, Rauf condemned the extremists who issued death threats against the Pope and political cartoonists, specifically saying that "these reactions are not at all called for by Islamic teaching. The teachings of Islam are very similar to the teachings of Christianity, of loving the one God and loving thy neighbor. These are the two common principles."

When Diane Sawyer mentioned that Imam Rauf says the radicals are just a "group of people" and "not him," Beck seemed to agree, saying "sure, sure." He added, "I believe it's a small portion of Islam that is acting in these ways."

Beck, for his part, even appeared to gesture to Imam Rauf when he invoked the idea of "good Muslims." (At about 2:45.)

Beck's response to this -- if he bothers to respond at all -- will likely be that when this segment was filmed, he was unaware of the supposed "radical" beliefs of Rauf. However as we (and Jon Stewart) have pointed out, Rauf's statements about 9-11 that Beck and others have pointed to as evidence of his hatred of America and sympathy for terrorism track very closely with things many conservatives -- including Glenn Beck himself - have said.


And more stories related to Anti-Muslim Hate Crimes , Islamophobia and the connections between Islamophobes in Europe and in the USA with radical Neo-Nazis and Fascists and "Hooliganism".

22 men sought after far-right protest clashes at via Sept. 24,2010

Detectives investigating disorder which broke out during an English Defence League protest in Dudley have released CCTV images of men they want to identify.

West Midlands Police said officers were continuing to investigate criminal damage and other offences committed during disturbances in the town centre on July 17.

The CCTV stills, taken on the day of the EDL protest and a counter-demonstration, show 22 individuals whom detectives wish to trace.

Homes in the Alexandra Street area of Dudley were attacked during the violence, which also saw damage caused to parked cars, restaurants and a Hindu temple.

Detective Inspector Carl Southwick, who is leading the investigation, said: "We are appealing to members of the public to look closely at these images.

"We are committed to identifying those responsible for the pockets of disorder and criminal damage that took place in Dudley town centre."

Islamophobe leaves UK to spread his anti-Islamic propaganda in America. Will Pam Geller Robert Spencer welcome him with open arms or fear new competition.

Yay! Ed Husain is leaving the country Sept. 21, 2010

Yes, Ed Husain is indeed leaving the UK. Having spent the past few years trying to poison public opinion against mainstream Muslim organisations here, Husain is evidently off to the US to do the same there. According to the Jewish Chronicle he’s resigning from the Quilliam Foundation to become a senior fellow at the Council for Foreign Relations.

And good riddance, I say. At least the Muslim community in the UK will be spared the further attentions of this contemptible little man. Of course, you might say I’m biased. My past experience of Husain has involved him sending a threatening email to a London Assembly member in whose office I worked demanding that he stop me criticising the Quilliam Foundation and, when that failed, hiring libel lawyers in an attempt to silence me. And all this while Husain’s employment at Quilliam was being subsidised by public money.

CAIR and other organizations in the US Muslim community should prepare themselves for a Husain-inspired campaign of misrepresentation and slander against them.

Oh yeah the new talking Points for the Islamophobes who deny any hate crimes against Muslims in America or elsewhere-
1. It wasn't a case of anti-Muslim activity the non-Muslim in question was drunk or on drugs.
2. It wasn't a matter of anti-Muslim activity or Islamophobia but the person in question was mentally ill.
3. It wasn't a case of anti-Muslim activity but rather a personal beef the person in question had with some individual in the Islamic community or with managers of the Mosque -just personal

Anti-Muslim Hate Crime treated by police as a mere case of trespass
Drunk Man Pees On Prayer Rugs At Queens Mosque" at, Aug. 26, 2010

If it’s not a drunken man allegedly stabbing a cabbie because he’s Muslim, then it’s a drunken man entering a Queens mosque and urinating on its prayer rugs. Last night, at the Al-Iman Mosque on Steinway Street, an apparently intoxicated man stormed in and “shouted anti-Muslim slurs as he urinated on prayer rugs,” the Post reports. Naturally, that interrupted the evening prayers. According to witnesses, Omar Rivera was shouting slurs and calling the worshippers “terrorists.” One told the Post, “He stuck up his middle finger and cursed at everyone… No one can pray now because the rugs are completely soiled. It was disgusting… He calls us terrorists, yet he comes into our mosque and terrorizes other people… This is a true hate crime.” Rivera was eventually subdued and held in a back room until police arrived. He was charged with criminal trespass.

36 Muslim graves desecrated in Strasbourg at, Sept. 24, 2010

Three swastikas were drawn into the gravel paths, the source said. One of them, into a square parcel of Muslim, was about one meter in diameter, according to an AFP journalist on the spot.

Some tombstones were overturned, others broken. The children’s graves were among those damaged, while some families established related damage in early afternoon.

“It’s a shame, even death can not leave us in peace,” Hamid told AFP Talbi, 50, employee of the mayor of Strasbourg, looking at the stone thrown from his father Salah.

His father, a harki, “served 25 years in the French army. When I saw the swastika, I had a knot in the stomach,” he added.

He said that his father’s grave had been desecrated in June 2004. At the time, the neo-Nazi markings were painted on a fifty graves Muslim.

The desecration of Friday has a strong reaction among officials of the local Muslim community, which next year will inaugurate its new mosque.

Abdul Aziz Shukri, the delegate general of the Grand Mosque, spoke of a deliberate attack against a place of worship “symbolic” for the community because it is situated close to the ground where in 2011 must be fitted first exclusively Muslim cemetery in France.

“There is a buzz surrounding the movements of the extreme right, not a coincidence that this event comes ahead of a drink” organized by the Front National (FN) in the north of the city, “said Mr. Shukri told AFP.

(desecration deliberate and systematic not just a couple of drunk hooligans )
“We do not improvise the desecration of dozens of graves, this is not amateurish,” he added.

The mayor (PS) of Strasbourg Roland Ries, who met in the day officials of the Muslim community, has also denounced calls to “aperitifs provocation”. “We’re in a context of concern (in which) the factions are taking action,” he lamented.

Section Strasbourg League of Human Rights (LDH) expressed its “outrage” against a “situation (which) continues to deteriorate. Licra denounced “an outrageous and stupid act, which occurs after an accumulation of similar facts.

This is the fourth desecration of Jewish and Muslim tombs in the city since the beginning of the year.

On July 21, 27 graves were desecrated at Jewish cemetery Wolfisheim near Strasbourg. In late June, 17 Muslim gravestones were knocked over or damaged in robertsi cemetery, north of the city. In January, thirty graves in the Jewish cemetery Cronenbourg (west) had been damaged, the day of the commemoration of the liberation of Nazi concentration camps.

and according to Robert Spencer and Pam Geller cutting off a pig's head and dropping it off at a Mosques is just teenagers young adults drunk and having fun there is way that it was Hate Crime against Muslims. (how could it be if the Islamophobes believe that all Muslims should be feared and hated.

Severed Pig’s head Dumped in front of Cambridge mosque Loonwatch via Sept. 24, 2010

Hate for Muslims doesn’t exist? Spencer would probably blame it on Muslims.
Severed pig’s head dumped at Cambridge mosque

A severed pig’s head has been left outside a mosque in Cambridge – triggering alarm among the city’s Muslims. Families found the head on the steps of the place of worship on Monday night on their way to prayers. An emergency meeting was due to be held last night after the incident at the Shah Jalal Bangladeshi Community House in Darwin Drive.

A worshipper at the mosque, who did not wish to be named, told the News: “It is a terrible insult. There are about 40 families who go to the centre and everyone is highly emotional at the moment. It was left there between 8.15pm and 9pm. Some families found it as they went for prayer at about 9pm. It was a very ugly sight. This was a nasty and appalling thing to do. We thought we had good relations with the community around here.”

Some Muslims believe the pig’s head attack could have been triggered after an application to increase the number of worshippers at the mosque prompted objections from some residents.

"Burnley College bans students and visitors from wearing veil" at via Sept. 24,2010

and : Call for Burnley College to rethink headwear ban from via Sept. 24, 2010

A Lancashire sixth form college which bans all headwear - including veils worn for religious reasons - is being urged to reconsider its policy.

Geert Wilders Hero Of The AntiMuslim Islamophobic Mob Pam Geller thinks he's hot - she like those tall blonde Blue eyed Aryans.

"Netherlands: Christian Democrat leader rejects Lubbers’ criticisms, insists on pursuing deal with Wilders "Via IslamophobiaToday Aug. 27, 2010

Division within the Netherlands’s Christian Democratic Appell (CDA) party over dealing with the far-right PVV party of anti-Islamist politician Geert Wilders deepened Friday with a top leader insisting talks with the PVV should continue.

CDA parliamentary faction leader Maxime Verhagen ruled out suspending talks with the PVV – rejecting a call made the day before by former premier Ruud Lubbers – on getting the PVV’s backing for a minority government.

Verhagen said any suspension of the talks was out of the question. The work towards forming a Wilders-approved minority cabinet was in full swing, he said. “I expect that we will achieve a good result with which we can convince Mr. Lubbers,” Verhagen said.

and see:

The War On Sharia Started Long Before You Ever Heard 'Ground Zero Mosque' Talking Points TPM Muckraker,Sept. 23, 2010


and so it goes,

Monday, September 27, 2010

Fox News Promotes Islamophobic Anti-Muslim Crackpot Bigoted " Conspiracy Theories"

Fox News only too happy to promote Andy McCarthy's vile vicious virulent bigoted attack on Islam, liberals, leftists or progressives and President Obama who McCarthy argues is either a secret Muslim or at least acting as a co-conspirator to make America more compliant with Sharia/Islamic Law. So he is accusing Obama and the left in America as committing seditious and traitorous acts. Andrew McCarthy argues that this plot has been afoot in America for at least the last sixty years and in Europe for well over a hundred years as the Muslim 5th column awaits its moment to radically transform America by peaceful means if possible if not than by the sword.
The question one should ask is why anyone should take the crackpot conspiracy theories of these bigoted Islamophobes than the bigoted conspiracy theories of the overworked brains of Anti-Semites who still claim as fact the notorious forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Yet Fox News and right-wing Talk Radio and the supposedly intellectual anti-Islam Islamophobes appear all too willing to promote and promulgate the most twisted bizarre conspiracy theories and distortions of Islamic history or its theology and ethics to suit their own right-wing anti-Obama anti-American agenda .

The Islamization Of America !!!
Sean Hannity interviews Andy Mccarthy about his book "Grand Jihad" the Islamization of America.

debunking anti-mosque wingnuts

Massive Rise In Islamophobia and Anti-Muslim Racism In US - Special Report [Press TV News]

Americans remain wary of Islam Christian Science Monitor Sept.26, 2010

Americans are conflicted over Islam as the FBI investigates a growing list of anti-Islamic incidents. Still, Muslims and their mosques are being welcomed in some communities.

At the same time, the number of instances of vandalism at mosques and the threats to those involved in proposed new mosques continue to increase, according to the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

The burning of a car in the parking lot of an Islamic community center in Lafayette, La. last week is being investigated by the FBI as a possible hate crime. Burned copies of the Quran recently have been found at the Islamic Society of San Francisco, the Muslim Community Center in Chicago, the Annoor Mosque in Knoxville, Tenn., and the Islamic Center of East Lansing, Mich.

Meanwhile, the New York Times reports that “a record number of Muslim workers are complaining of employment discrimination, from co-workers calling them ‘terrorist’ or ‘Osama’ to employers barring them from wearing head scarves or taking prayer breaks.”

“Although Muslims make up less than 2 percent of the United States population, they accounted for about one-quarter of the 3,386 religious discrimination claims filed with the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission last year,” the Times reports.

As for the proposed mosque and Islamic center new ground zero in New York, 80 percent of likely voters in New York State say a Muslim group has the right to build there, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Friday. But 57 percent say doing so would be wrong.

The Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life reported Friday that 35 proposed mosques and Islamic centers have encountered community resistance in the last two years.

“In many cases, the opposition has centered on neighbors' concerns about traffic, noise, parking and property values – the same objections that often greet churches and other houses of worship as well as commercial construction projects,” reports Pew. “In some communities, however, opponents of mosques also have cited fears about Islam, sharia law and terrorism.”

and another example of blatant Islamophobia unduly influencing State Of Texas Public School Text Book Selection. Conservatives in Texas like the GOP and others want to make sure that there are no positive statements occurring in Social Studies or other school text books in regards to Islam , the Qur'an or the Prophet Muhammad . It seems Texans don't like Muslims. And like other Islamophobes they want to eliminate statements which reflect positive contributions to Western Civilization or World History by Islam, or Islamic Civilization or Muslims . The history of Islam is to be expunged and treated as a negative factor in world history. Didn't the Nazis and anti-semites do the same with the history of Judaism .

One could also make the comparison here to other history revisionists such as the Communist of the Soviet Union or Mao in China , or Khmer Rouge of Cambodia attempting to write or create a distorted history of the West and the world.

"Texas ed board adopts resolution limiting Islam"
By APRIL CASTRO AP Writer Sept. 24,2010

AUSTIN, Texas — The Texas State Board of Education adopted a resolution Friday that seeks to curtail references to Islam in Texas textbooks, as social conservative board members warned of what they describe as a creeping Middle Eastern influence in the nation's publishing industry.

The board approved the one-page nonbinding resolution, which urges textbook publishers to limit what they print about Islam in world history books, by a 7-5 vote.

Critics say it's another example of the ideological board trying to politicize public education in the Lone Star State. Kathy Miller, president of the Texas Freedom Network, which advocates for religious freedom, questioned why the resolution came at a time when "anti-Muslim rhetoric in this country has reached fever pitch."

"It's hard not to conclude that the misleading claims in this resolution are either based on ignorance of what's in the textbooks or, on the other hand, are an example of fear-mongering and playing politics," Miller said.

Future boards that will choose the state's next generation of social studies texts will not be bound by the resolution.

"This is an expression of the board's opinion, so it does not have an effect on any particular textbook," said David Anderson, the general counsel for the Texas Education Agency, when asked by a board member what legal weight the resolution would carry.

"So this is a cosmetic exercise?" asked board member Mavis Knight, a Democrat from Dallas.

The resolution cites world history books no longer used in Texas schools that it says devoted more lines of text to Islamic beliefs and practices than Christian ones. Chairwoman Gail Lowe said the resolution cites old books because board rules prohibit them from discussing current books more than 90 days after their adoption.

"I believe that it's happening in the current (social studies books) even though we can't cover that in the resolution," said board member Terri Leo, a Republican from Spring. The resolution sends a "clear message to publishers that it should not happen in the future."

The resolution also claims "more such discriminatory treatment of religion may occur as Middle Easterners buy into the U.S. public school textbook oligopoly, as they are doing now."

Two Republicans broke from their party to vote with the Democrats. Two Democrats - Mary Helen Berlanga of Corpus Christi and Rene Nunez of El Paso - were absent for the vote. The initial vote on the resolution was 7-6, but the board later reconsidered the measure. The second vote was 7-5 after a Democratic board member left the meeting.

The measure was suggested to the board this summer by Odessa businessman Randy Rives, who lost his Republican primary bid for a seat on the panel earlier this year. Members of a social conservative bloc of the board then asked Lowe to put the resolution on this week's agenda.

During public testimony, which included comments from activists as well as a handful of parents, Jonathan Saenz, a lobbyist for the conservative Liberty Institute, argued that the board was "doing the right thing ... to prevent any type of religious discrimination or treat any religion in a way that's incomplete."

Several times during the testimony, Lowe intervened, attempting to calm flaring tempers.

"The Board's mission, and Texas' future, is ill-served when the board chooses to use its limited meeting time to discuss and vote on discriminatory and politically motivated measures, such as this proposed resolution," said Frank Knaack, of the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas.

The resolution concludes by warning publishers the "State Board of Education will look to reject future prejudicial social studies submissions that continue to offend Texas law with respect to treatment of the world's major religious groups by significant inequalities of coverage space-wise and by demonizing or lionizing one or more of them over others."

Social conservatives control the 15-member board for now, although the landscape is set to change after one member of the bloc lost his primary election bid and another chose not to seek re-election. The board in recent years has become a battleground for social conservatives and liberal watchdogs, each accusing the other of imposing ideological agendas into what about 4.8 million public school students learn in Texas classrooms.

and so it goes,

Sunday, September 26, 2010

Andrew McCarthy's Grand Jihad " Obama Working For Islam Not America "??? & Hagen Rether "Grabbing One's Own Nose First"

The real threat to the United States is not terrorism. The real threat is Islamism, whose sophisticated forces have collaborated with the American Left not only to undermine U.S. national security but also to shred the fabric of American constitutional democracy—freedom and individual liberty. In The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America, bestselling author Andrew C. McCarthy offers a harrowing account of how the global Islamist movement’s jihad involves far more than terrorist attacks, and how it has found the ideal partner in President Barack Obama, whose Islamist sympathies run deep.

For years, McCarthy warned of America’s blindness to the Islamist threat, but in The Grand Jihad McCarthy exposes a new, more insidious peril: the government’s active appeasement of the Islamist ideology. With the help of witting and unwitting accomplices in and out of government, Islamism doesn’t merely fuel terrorism but spawns America-hating Islamic enclaves in our very midst, gradually foisting Islam’s repressive law, sharia, on American life. The revolutionary doctrine has made common cause with an ascendant Left that also seeks radical transformation of our constitutional order. The prognosis for liberty could not be more dire. …”
From Pronk Palisades ,Andrew McCarthy–The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotaged America–Videos

Does this constitute Hate Speech - Is his book meant to incite violence

Cover of Bat Ye'or's book Eurabia in which she contends European nations have already sold out to Islam and it is only a matter of time when Europe will be under an Islamic Theocratic State enforcing Sharia/ Islamic Law.

Anti-Muslim Islamophobes Provocateurs Andrew Bostom, Geert Wilders, Robert Spence and Pam Geller
Nazi propaganda poster promising to remove Jewish teachers from Germany's classrooms and universities.
Andrew McCarthy and Daniel Pies et al want all leftists , Muslims, liberals and progressives removed from the public schools and the Universities. They believe they are all part of an insidious conspiracy to radically transform America and Western Civilization.
"Woe is (unto) us ,if soon the Mosques will be burning here
Then once again no one (will) accept any blame."

Quote from Hagen Rether German cabaret artist on Islamophobia (w/ english subs)

Multicultural coddling or cudgeling??
The Nazis cudgeled we are supposed to be more enlightened so we Coddle
So what's so evil about being tolerant, patient,indulgent and understanding

Hagen Rether even though he is in Germany he is not reluctant to compare the rise in Islamophobia and their propaganda methods to that of the Nazis . In both cases they begin with raising suspicions about the targeted groups which then becomes an elusive all powerful at least in their strategies of lies and deception and eventually this turns into hate and loathing and a dehumanizing of the group in question. Once they are dehumanized like the million or so Iraqis then as in Nazi Germany or Serbia next step is ethnic cleansing which could mean incarceration and deportation .

German cabaret artist Hagen Rether talking about Islamophobia in German media & public discourse.
kackn0ob | April 08, 2008
Aired on ARD television, December 29th, 2007.

Some explanations on the allusions made in the video:

- "a guest of friends" is the literal translation of the motto of the 2006 football world championship in Germany

- Henryk M. Broder is a German journalist who wrote a book on what he perceives to be the Islamisation of Europe called "Hooray, we're capitulating!"

- A "Hauptschule" is a secondary school which mostly students with bad grades in elementary school go to afterwards.

- Ralph Giordano is a Jewish Holocaust survivor and well-known writer who recently started to speak out (among other Islam-related topics) against the construction of a mosque in Cologne.

- (Wolfgang) Schäuble is the German minister of the interior

- "grabbing one's own nose" is a German proverb meaning that you have to deal with your own mistakes before you can criticise others

Taqiyya -lies and deception

Sharia as the new red menace? By Eugene Robinson at loonwatch
Tuesday, September 21, 2010

Boy, I really hate it when American judges try to impose harsh Islamic sharia law. You know, with all those grisly lashings, stonings and beheadings. What’s that you say? No such thing is happening, and you wonder where I got such a crazy idea? Why, Newt Gingrich told me.

On Saturday, speaking at the conservative Values Voter Summit, Gingrich issued a thunderous call for action against an imminent threat that exists only in his fevered imagination — or, perhaps, in his political machinations.

“We should have a federal law that says sharia law cannot be recognized by any court in the United States,” Gingrich declared, to a standing ovation.

Anyway Newt Gingrich has now moved into the loony camp that is those who are either convinced Obama is a secret Muslim or are hinting at this in order to undermine Obama , his administration and the Democratic Party.

Gingrich is at the very least the lowest form of political opportunist or political animal. Does he give a damn if his constituency of angry as hell right wingers and Christian fanatics go out and stat beating up Muslim Americans or burning Mosques or lynching Muslim Americans.

Gingrich has joined the anti-Ground Zero Mosque of Know Nothings, Nativists & bigots to what? win a few votes ? or to take a run at the 2012 Presidential Election ?.

But where is Gingrich and others getting these bizarre ideas about President Obama. Well at the moment the Islamophobic cottage industry in the USA and Europe have decided to turn on Obama first merely claiming he was an appeaser to Islam and now accusing him of taking part in a conspiracy to replace traditional American law with Sharia.

For instance Daniel Pipe argues Obama is allowing Islamic law/ Sharia to replace traditional American laws. Is he nuts.

Daniel Pipes accuses Obama of enforcing Sharia law at Islamophobia today Saturday, September 25, 2010

Over at the Washington Times Daniel Pipes opines that he found Pastor Terry Jones’ plan to ban the Qur’an “distasteful”. But actual the object of his attack is the Obama administration, who Pipes claims capitulated to the threat of “Muslim violence” when they persuaded Jones to call off his book-burning stunt. Pipes explains: “That violence stems from Islamic law, Shariah, which insists that Islam, and the Koran in particular, enjoy a privileged status. Islam ferociously punishes anyone, Muslim or non-Muslim, who trespasses against Islam’s sanctity.”

Pipes concludes with the following charge against the Obama administration: “Its pressure on Mr. Jones further eroded freedom of speech about Islam and implicitly established Islam’s privileged status in the United States, whereby Muslims may insult others but not be insulted. This moves the country toward dhimmitude, a condition whereby non-Muslims acknowledge the superiority of Islam. Finally, Mr. Obama, in effect, enforced Islamic law, a precedent that could lead to other forms of compulsory Shariah compliance.”

Pipes has found himself rather sidelined recently by more newsworthy Islamophobes like Pamela Geller or Newt Gingrich. Maybe this is Pipes’ attempt to show he is still a major player when it comes to whipping up hysteria against the US Muslim community.

One of the more recent books added to the Islamophobes Must Read list is is Andrew C. McCarthy's Grand Jihad published in May this year. The book like so many others such as Bat Ye'or's Eurabia are at their core anti-Islam screeds. The scholarship is dubious slip-shod and shallow.

And these authors do not just criticize certain aspects of Islam but in facts uses the worst examples possible in the history and theology and scriptures of Islam to then claim that Islam has no redeeming features whatsoever. Meanwhile they write about Christianity as if its flaws were minor. These all encompassing attacks on Islam , the Holy Qur'an and the Prophet Muhammad are the very definition of what is referred to as Islamophobia.

For instance someone could be critical of some aspects of Islam such as some of the punishments given out under the guise of Islamic jurisprudence or comparing Islam to other religions in a fair and balanced manner.

But rather these mean-spirited hate-filled critics of Islam are not unbiased objective scholars in any sense of the word. They begin with the proposition that Islam and most Muslims are downright evil and then scour the literature to prove their point.

These individuals such as Pam Geller, Robert Spencer ,Daniel Pipes, David Horowitz , Andrew Bostom or groups ie Jihad Watch, Stop Islamization of America and their Major Media outlet Fox News are no longer as they were even a year ago out on the fringes but have become part of the mainstreams attempt at having an adult conversation and civilized debate over related issues. Instead we get hysteria and constant comparisons to the Nazis and Hitler and distorted history .

Andrew McCarthy in his book Grand Jihad characterizes Islam as a real and present danger to America and Western Civilization.

"Jihad" it is said has two meanings for Muslims -
The Greater Jihad is that of struggling to become a better Muslim or a more virtuous person as defined by the Holy Qur'an.
The second form of Jihad is referred to as the " lesser Jihad" which is the struggle to defend and promote Islam which includes the waging of war against the enemies of Islam.

According to Andrew McCarthy in his book about Islam The Grand Jihad All muslims are required to take part in both forms of Jihad.

McCarthy argues that the lesser Jihad is not merely a defensive posturing but is also offensive and aggressive in nature .
He argues that the goal of Islamic Jihad is to spread Islam throughout the world by peaceful or violent means. (in Christianity this is called the Great Commission)

Mccarthy and other critics of Islam argue that it is the duty of all Muslims to further the Jihad ie to proselytize on behalf of Islam.
There is therefore at this little difference between Islam and other proselytizing religions.

According to its critics what sets Islam apart is that this proselytizing is to be carried out according to peaceful means, violent means and where necessary through stealth and deception (Taqqiya)

This form of aggressive Jihad using violence and or deception began with the Prophet Muhammad in the seventh century and has been ongoing ever since.

McCarthy argues that all sincere good Muslims whether in Islamic ruled countries or in non-Muslim countries are involved in Jihad in one way or another.

The genius of this move in Mccarthy's argument is that by being permitted by the Qur'an to lie and deceive non-Muslims to further the spreading of Islam.

McCarthy then argues that because of this over-arching command from the Holy Qur'an the Muslims in non-Muslim countries owe their allegiance first to Islam and the spreading of Islam and their loyalty to the nation in which they reside is secondary and therefore dubious and questionable.

Now the crux of McCarthy's conspiracy theory is that and as he says wait for it is that President Obama is in fact a Muslim who is working to further the goals, aims agenda of Islam by transforming America into a state more compliant with Islamic principles of justice and governance in preparation for becoming an Islamic and Sharia ruled state.

The beauty of all this is that of course Obama is going to deny being Muslim because as a Muslim he is permitted to lie to and deceive non-Muslims that is the Dhimmi.
This is also the case for all Muslims at all times no matter what nation they reside in. I say reside because Muslims have no allegiance or loyalty to any state except one that is fully Islamic in which Islam is the national religion and all laws are in accordance with the Holy Qur'an and Sharia.

So according to McCarthy the Obama administration and all Muslim Americans are involved in one way or another in a stealth campaign or Jihad to fundamentally transform American society and government .

These stealth Jihadists represent a 5th column embedded in America to slowly transform its traditions, values and its religion and the complete take over of the government creating a theocratic state.
This strategy McCarthy and other critics of Islam refer to as "creeping Sharia" by which one law after another is made more compliant with Islamic principles of Sharia.

So Islam according to mcCarty is involved in a war being fought on various fronts and by various strategies given the context of the nation in which they reside. In some places various forms of violence is used in others stealth seems a better strategy.

The mistake that past administrations in the United States have made is believing that America is only at war with Islamic extremists and terrorists such Al Qaeda and brutal authoritarian Islamic governments such as The Taliban whereas in fact America should consider Islam and all Muslims as the enemy. Muslims are the rot at the core of Western Civilization. If we accept Andrew McCarthy's analysis the Clash of Civilizations is in fact all too real.

Andrew McCarthy, Robert Wright, Moderate Islam and the Fundamentalist Mindset at CupO' Joel Sept 15, 2010

The uberconservative right wing anti-Muslim crowd give Andrew McCarthy 's book stellar reviews. For example Michelle Malkin is fawning and effusive her short review . Michelle Malkin is best known for her apologetics on the Internment of Japanese Americans in WWII and the dropping of Nuclear bombs on Hiroshima & Nagasaki.

Exposing the Grand JihadBy Michelle Malkin at her website May 25, 2010

Former top federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy has been one of America’s bravest and most stalwart warriors against Islamic jihad. He’s battled them in court. He’s exposed them here at home and around the globe.

His new book, The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America, is out today, and I urge you all to get a copy — and then share it with all your friends and family. If you care about the survival of our country, McCarthy’s work is must-read. He thoroughly demonstrates how our external Muslim enemies join with out internal Alinskyite enemies to destroy all we hold dear.

His latest piece at NRO asks trenchantly as always: How long can a people remain a People when its leaders side with its foes? McCarthy writes:

A number of years ago, at some risk to myself and my family, I prosecuted savage jihadists who had made themselves enemies of the United States. I was lauded for doing so by the Clinton administration. Though I disagreed with that administration philosophically, and particularly with its conception of international terrorism as a crime problem, I praised the much-needed overhaul by which it put teeth in our counterterrorism laws. Our disagreement was over the best way to protect the country, not over the imperative that the country be protected. Our debate was the traditional Right-Left debate.

Moreover, as a New York lawyer who made no secret of having conservative views, I was a decided minority, even among my fellow prosecutors. But that only mattered in the occasional, friendly joust over a beer. Day to day, our politics had nothing to do with how we went about our jobs. At the office, I had friends across the ideological spectrum. Most of them were from the political left, but we liked and respected one another. The bond we shared, the sense that we were doing something good for the nation we all loved, was stronger than any ideological divisions.

Why does that matter now? Because, for the first time in our history, we have a president who would be much more comfortable sitting in a room with Bill Ayers than sitting in a room with me. We have a governing class that is too often comfortable with anti-American radicals, with rogue and dysfunctional governments that blame America for their problems, and with Muslim Brotherhood ideologues who abhor individual liberty, capitalism, freedom of conscience, and, in general, Western enlightenment. To this president and his government, I am the problem.


The Meaning of the Koran
Opinionatot blogs NYT, Sept. 14, 2010

Test your religious literacy:

Which sacred text says that Jesus is the “word” of God? a) the Gospel of John; b) the Book of Isaiah; c) the Koran.

The correct answer is the Koran. But if you guessed the Gospel of John you get partial credit because its opening passage — “In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God” — is an implicit reference to Jesus. In fact, when Muhammad described Jesus as God’s word, he was no doubt aware that he was affirming Christian teaching.

Extra-credit question: Which sacred text has this to say about the Hebrews: God, in his “prescience,” chose “the children of Israel … above all peoples”? I won’t bother to list the choices, since you’ve probably caught onto my game by now; that line, too, is in the Koran.

I highlight these passages in part for the sake of any self-appointed guardians of Judeo-Christian civilization who might still harbor plans to burn the Koran. I want them to be aware of everything that would go up in smoke.

But I should concede that I haven’t told the whole story. Even while calling Jesus the word of God — and “the Messiah” — the Koran denies that he was the son of God or was himself divine. And, though the Koran does call the Jews God’s chosen people, and sings the praises of Moses, and says that Jews and Muslims worship the same God, it also has anti-Jewish, and for that matter anti-Christian, passages.

The regrettable parts of the Koran — the regrettable parts of any religious scripture — don’t have to matter.

This darker side of the Koran, presumably, has already come to the attention of would-be Koran burners and, more broadly, to many of the anti-Muslim Americans whom cynical politicians like Newt Gingrich are trying to harness and multiply. The other side of the Koran — the part that stresses interfaith harmony — is better known in liberal circles.

...The Koran’s exhortations to jihad in the military sense are sometimes brutal in tone but are so hedged by qualifiers that Muhammad clearly doesn’t espouse perpetual war against unbelievers, and is open to peace with them. (Here, for example, is my exegesis of the “sword verse,” the most famous jihadist passage in the Koran.) The formal doctrine of military jihad — which isn’t found in the Koran, and evolved only after Muhammad’s death — does seem to have initially been about endless conquest, but was then subject to so much amendment and re-interpretation as to render it compatible with world peace. Meanwhile, in the hadith — the non-Koranic sayings of the Prophet — the tradition arose that Muhammad had called holy war the “lesser jihad” and said that the “greater jihad” was the struggle against animal impulses within each Muslim’s soul.


Robert Spencer
Silencing Spencer: Taqiyya and Kitman are part of Judeo-Christian Belief Islamophobia today via Aug. 15,2010.

However, Spencer argues in his book that while lying is generally prohibited, “Islam allows for lying…in certain circumstances.” [4] Having established this, Spencer boldly entitles the chapter “Islamic Law: Lie, Steal, and Kill,” arguing that Islam is the one religion on earth that advocates lying. On the same page, Robert Spencer opposes “the idea that Islam shares the general moral outlook of Judaism and Christianity.” In particular, “Islam doesn’t have a moral code analogous to the Ten Commandments.” By this, he means to say that the religion of Islam does not hold fast to the 9th Commandment, which prohibits lying: “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”

Before we proceed, it should be very clear that it is Robert Spencer himself who opens up the chapter by comparing the Judeo-Christian belief system to Islam. Therefore, when we question this comparison, let our opponents not cry “tu quoque, tu qouque!” as they always do whenever we point out their bold-faced hypocrisy and double standards. What Spencer is saying is quite clear: unlike other religions, Judaism and his own Christianity in particular, Islam advocates lying in certain circumstances.

The revelation, that Islam allows for lying in certain circumstances, is supposed to shock the mind. Ohmigosh, how could a religion sanction lying!? But if we move past sanctimonious outrage, we realize that any moral code, be it based in religious faith or atheistic humanism, should allow for lying in certain circumstances. That’s the most obvious thing in the world. If, for example, the Nazis knock on your door and ask you “are you hiding any Jews in your attic?”, would Robert Spencer demand you to be truthful and say “yes”? In that circumstance, lying should not only be allowed, but encouraged or even obligated. A moral code that did not allow for a lie in this circumstance would be highly flawed. This is simply common sense. No moral code, be it religious or otherwise, ought to command honesty without exception. It’s common sense that there should be some exceptions to truth-telling.


Robert Spencer appears to practice his own form of deception.

Facts Don’t Matter to the “Scholar” Robert Spencer at Spencer Watch Sept. 22, 2010

Everyone keeps claiming that Robert Spencer is this big time “scholar.” Yet, it seems that he could care less when it comes to the facts. In a recent rant about the Chicago man who was arrested after planting what he thought was a real bomb in a dumpster outside of Wrigley Field, Spencer penned this:

Got to watch out for those “Chicago men,” especially during yet another long summer of frustration at Wrigley, as Sweet Lou Piniella has ridden off into the sunset with no end in sight for the Cub Fan’s frustration. It would drive anyone to plant a bomb, now, wouldn’t it? Wouldn’t it?

He seems to lament the fact that the media, quite responsibly, called the suspect, Sami Hassoun, as a “Chicago man,” rather than identifying him by his religion. Presumably, looking at his Facebook page, he is Muslim since he did have a status saying “eid mubarak.” Still, Spencer seemed to not like the fact that the news reported him as he is: a Chicago man.

Once again, however, Robert Spencer’s “scholarship” shows in his total disregard for the facts. Had he bothered to even do a simple Google search, rather than just post the headline and move on, he would have found that this “Chicago man,” Sami Hassoun, had absolutely no religious motivation for his alleged attack:

Authorities said Hassoun wasn’t motivated by religious or political views but rather by a bizarre desire to undermine the mayor’s political support and allow an associate to take control of the city. He also hoped to profit from the scheme by being paid for his terrorism work by supporters, the charges alleged.

In fact, according to the authorities, Hassoun had even suggested that they blame the attacks on Muslim extremists:

Hassoun suggested the plotters attempt to put blame for the attack on Muslim extremists.

When undercover agents told Hassoun their group wanted to change how the U.S. treated people “back home,” Hassoun seemed uninterested in ideology.

“Mine is a different kind of concept than this,” Hassoun said. “We’re floating same boat, you know. … We’re doing the same thing, but everybody has their own interest. … The results of this is a benefit to everybody.”

So, this man had absolutely no religious motivation behind his plot to bomb Wrigleyville. He never mentioned Islam or “jihad,” or the Qur’an as his motivation. No “taqiyya,” or “kitman,” or any other term that Spencer uses to mislead the public. He told his informants why he wanted to commit terrorism:

Hassoun was critical of Daley, telling the informant that the mayor’s policies had weakened security in the city and once saying he wanted to foment a “revolution” in the city, according to the charges.

But, that doesn’t matter to Robert Spencer. It seems that if any criminal commits a crime and happens to be a Muslim, then “poof” he becomes a “Islamic Jihadist” bent upon destroying the West. Facts just don’t matter to the “scholar” Robert Spencer.

and so it goes,