Friday, October 19, 2012

Daniel Elsberg: A Vote For Obama Is A Vote Against The Republicans & The Rightwing Extremists

"I believe we should always support a Christian over a non-Christian" ..."The value of electing a Christian goes beyond public policies. . . . Christians are uniquely favored by God, [while] Mormons, Hindus and Muslims worship a false god. The eternal consequences outweigh political ones. It is worse to legitimize a faith that would lead people to a separation from God."    Jeffress, pastor of First Baptist Church of Dallas Sept. 2008

Quote from article Jeffress Still Attacking Romney's Faith by Kyle Mantyla at Right Wing Watch .org Sept. 26,2008

and Jeffress has changed his tune a bit between 2008 and the present which he explains because Mormons and evangelicals agree on a number of issues and are now in a fight with a minion of Satan President Obama.

I still think there are concerns out there among evangelicals about voting for a Mormon. I’ve made peace with it; the way I’ve made peace with it is to make it very clear on programs like yours that Mormonism is a cult, it is a false religion, Mormons worship a multiplicity of gods, they deny the Bible, in fact they think the Bible is so error-filled there had to be a second book of revelations. I want to make it very clear that I don’t believe Mormonism is Christianity but I do think that in this case it is better to vote for a non-Christian who supports biblical principles like life and marriage than voting for a professing Christian like Barack Obama who absolutely repudiates what Jesus Christ said about some key issues.

...I know this sounds alarmist but I believe we are at the precipice, we are at a tipping point in our country right now, we are about to go over not the fiscal cliff, we are about to go over the moral and spiritual cliff from which there is no return, and that is why it is imperative for Christians to get out and vote in this election.

Quote of Pastor Jeffress from : Jeffress: 'Cult' Member Romney Still Better than Obama, who has his 'Fist in the Face of God' by Brian Tashman Rightwing, 10/18/2012

Extremist Tony Perkins members of the right and that is their winning of an election is far more important than the average citizens right to vote. They only want to encourage people eligible to vote who are on their side. This is why they rarely support any type of non-partisan drives to register eligible voters no matter whom they support.

This was one of the reasons they used their hit squad to take down groups such as ACORN not defending ACORN and just tossing that organization under the bus as is administration targeted by the GOP dirty tricks Hit Squad.

 As President Nixon showed and proved that any measure or tactic used is moral by definition if it leads to victory whether political or otherwise. This is why Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will do whatever necessary to get elected for instance hiring a firm which was willing to register Republican voters but refused to register Democrats they see nothing wrong with stuffing ballot boxes or using machines /computers that will automatically give more votes to the Republicans or they get states to mabout voting whether ending advance polls or limiting their hours so that it has in essence the effect of making it very difficult for certain people who as a group may lean in favor of the democrats from voting and the same goes for special voter picture ID rather than accepting other picture IDs . In most other Democracies governments and NGOs do all they can to make it as easy to vote as possible.

Perkins: 'We Don't Want to Encourage Folks Who are Going to be oting the Wrong Way' by Kyle Mantyla Rightwing,10/15/2012

Last week, Brian noted that FRC president Tony Perkins and vice presidents Jerry Boykin and Kenyn Cureton were all heading to Catalina Foothills Church in Tucson, Arizona for a "Recapturing America" conference where they would join up with a pastor who had been called on members of the church to “actively pray and work for the defeat of Barack Obama” in the upcoming election as he is an “enemy” of Christianity and religious freedom.

The event was held this weekend and after delivering his remarks, Perkins took some questions from the audience including from a mother who wanted his advice on how her children away at college could get their friends and roommates motivated to vote. Perkins responded by joking that the first thing they should find out is which way their friends intend to vote because "I want people to vote, but only if they're voting the right way."

But it seems that Perkins was actually entirely serious, as he followed that up by declaring that "in all seriousness, find out which way they're going; we don't want to encourage folks who are going to be voting the wrong way":

Joyner Hopes Romney will Fulfill the 'White Horse Prophecy'by Brian Tashman Rightwing, 10/5/2012

Rick Joyner has been optimistic about Mitt Romney’s chances at winning the presidency lately and floated the idea that Romney may even be the fulfillment of the “White Horse Prophecy” during an appearance on Jim Bakker’s show. After agreeing with Bakker that the differences between Mormonism and Christianity are merely minor ones, Joyner suggested that a prophecy that Mormons would save the U.S. in its darkest hour may be realized in Romney. While Joyner sounded hopeful about that possibility since it would mean Obama’s defeat, the prophecy, which has not been accepted by the LDS Church, goes on to suggest that “Mormons will control the government.”

As those on the right in the USA try to find a rationalization for voting for a non-Christian Romney who is a Mormon those to the left and moderates are attempting to find ways to rationalize voting for Obama who has been a great disappointment and yet must be supported to keep the Republicans and Mitt Romney from taking the Whitehous because these Republicans are extremist since there are few if any moderates left in the GOP. This also speaks volumes about the two party status quo since there are no other political parties to vote for or as a fall back position when both condidates of the two official parties are not to the liking of a large portion of American voters.

And so Daniel Elsberg attempts to explain why those American voters who are undecided they should to vote not so much for Obama but rather against elitist Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan the devotee of Ayn Rand & Machevellie and the Republican party which has been taken over by the social and economic extremists.

Defeat Romney, Without Illusions about Obama Advice to progressives in swing states, vote for reelection by Daniel Ellsberg Common dreams ,Oct. 18, 2012

It is urgently important to prevent a Republican administration under Romney/Ryan from taking office in January 2013.

The election is now just weeks away, and I want to urge those whose values are generally in line with mine -- progressives, especially activists -- to make this goal one of your priorities during this period.

...“I don’t ‘support Obama.’ I oppose the current Republican Party. This is not a contest between Barack Obama and a progressive candidate. The voters in a handful or a dozen close-fought swing states are going to determine whether Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are going to wield great political power for four, maybe eight years, or not.”

As Noam Chomsky said recently, “The Republican organization today is extremely dangerous, not just to this country, but to the world. It’s worth expending some effort to prevent their rise to power, without sowing illusions about the Democratic alternatives.”

Following that logic, he’s said to an interviewer what my friend heard me say to Amy Goodman: “If I were a person in a swing state, I’d vote against Romney/Ryan, which means voting for Obama because there is no other choice.”

...The traditional third-party mantra, “There’s no significant difference between the major parties” amounts to saying: “The Republicans are no worse, overall.” And that’s absurd. It constitutes shameless apologetics for the Republicans, however unintended. It’s crazily divorced from present reality.

And it’s not at all harmless to be propagating that absurd falsehood. It has the effect of encouraging progressives even in battleground states to refrain from voting or to vote in a close election for someone other than Obama, and more importantly, to influence others to act likewise. That’s an effect that serves no one but the Republicans, and ultimately the 1%.

It’s not merely understandable, it’s entirely appropriate to be enraged at Barack Obama. As I am. He has often acted outrageously, not merely timidly or “disappointingly.” If impeachment were politically imaginable on constitutional grounds, he’s earned it (like George W. Bush, and many of his predecessors!) It is entirely human to want to punish him, not to “reward” him with another term or a vote that might be taken to express trust, hope or approval.

But rage is not generally conducive to clear thinking. And it often gets worked out against innocent victims, as would be the case here domestically, if refusals to vote for him resulted in Romney’s taking key battleground states that decide the outcome of this election.

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