Thursday, October 18, 2012

Cenk Uygur Of TYT : Polls Say Obama Won Debate, CNN Won't Admit It - & Romney :America Is A Christian Nation & Religious Right Take Over Of US Military

Polls Say Obama Won Debate, CNN Won't Admit It - YouTube

Published on Oct 17, 2012 by TheYoungTurks "President Barack Obama won last night's presidential debate with Republican challenger Mitt Romney, according to a CNN/ORC International poll of 457 registered voters who watched the nationally televised event. Forty-six percent of those surveyed said Obama fared better in the debate, compared with 39 percent for Romney, according to results aired on CNN after the event. The poll found 73 percent said Obama's performance exceeded expectations, compared with 37 percent who said Romney did better than expected.

CNN's telephone survey had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points. Thirty-three percent of participants identified themselves as Republicans and 33 percent as Democrats, according to the survey."* Cenk Uygur explains why CNN refused to acknowledge Obama as the winner, even though their own poll numbers showed that he was.

One maybe disappointed in President obama's lack of substantive progressive legislation and his move to the right on a number of issues and in many cases following in the footsteps of the former Bush Regime and in some cases surpassing Bush but still he is not beholden as Mitt Romney is to the religious right and theocons .

Obama is then not merely the lesser of two evils but rather someone who may prevent the theocons and religious right gaining even more ground over the next four years that is if Obama is willing to stand his ground and not fold whenever there is a bit of pushback from the GOP and conservative Democrats .

On the other hand it is still troubling that president Obama has not stood up to the Religious Rights growing control of various American institutions such as the infiltration of the Pentagon and the US military. (See videos below on Christian Embassy & Mikey Weinstein of MRFF: Military Religious Freedom Foundation .)

Romney given the GOP platform passed during their convention is expected to pass legislation for example to ban abortion and ban Gay Marriage or even pass laws discriminating against the LGBT community and attempting to put religion to some extent back into the Public Square and into institutions such as the Public Schools ie allowing prayer and other public professing of religious faith and defending Intelligence Design over Evolution and through public ceremonies reassert America as religious nation fully engaged in promoting America's way of life and its core religious values to the rest of the world.

Romney is also against various government programs that help those in need his solution is to leave all such forms of what he considers to be charity up to the various churches and not the government. He also is not a champion of the rights of women or the disabled, university students, the elderly or the poor or that of various minorities .

In the video below Mitt Romney in December of 2007 compares himself to that of JFK who was a Catholic and had to deal with the bigotry of anti-Catholics and prove he was not beholden to the Vatican or the Pope . Romney says he will as president not make decisions only after they are vetted by The Church of Jesus Christ of latter Day Saints (LDS or Mormon).

Romney says he will not separate government from religion.
Romney said "Freedom requires religion. Religion requires freedom." He appears to be saying that one can only be a good American if one believes in God and goes to church.
Romney argues that the core belief of the Founding Fathers was rooted in a monotheistic faith.

Romney calls "secularism" a religion while condemning secularism as wrong and while he is asking for religious tolerance and not considering him to be eligible to be president because he is a Mormon.

Romney argues that America was founded by religious men who believed that a belief in God was somehow necessary for America to be a free democracy . Romney rejects the Separation of Church and state .

Romney believes the Founding Fathers were only against the establishment of one particular sect of Christianity as America's official religion but the Founders he claims did not countenance the elimination of religion or a monotheistic belief system from the Public Square. Romney's attitude seems to preclude any non-Monotheistic belief system as qualifying as a religion . Nor would he accept as a religion any religion by his definition as being a religion if it rejects the Holy Bible or the Judeo-Christian God or its prophets.

Romney like Bill O'Reilly and Fox News and The Washington Times believe that there are those who are anti-christianity who are part of a liberal and progressive conspiracy who want to replace any ostensible religious faith or belief with the evil demonic "Secular Humanism ".

So if Mitt becomes president if we take him seriously non-Christians will be treated as second class citizens or even as being enemies of America who are out to destroy Christianity and therefore the very foundation of the American government and way of life. But at the very least Romney agrees with social conservative Evangelicals and Catholic conservatives that any one who wants to be president or other high public offices should be religious at least to the extent of believing in God who according to Romney and the Religious Right is the true Founder of America as a nation.

Keith Olbermann on Romney's Assault on Secular Americans - YouTube Dec.7, 2007

On the other hand President Obama has taken no substantive action to deal with the issue of the growing influence of Conservative Evangelicals in the US military. The problem is that members of the US military including high ranking officers are engaged in aggressive proselytizing of their Evangelical Christian beliefs upon other officers and the rank and file. The pushing of a form of Conservative Christianity within the military goes back at least to Ronald Reagan and has continued through the Bush years and is now ignored by the Obama Regime. Is Obama afraid to take on the religious right or those in the Pentagon and US armed forces who are ignoring the "Separation of Church and State' or does Obama not see it as an important issue and maybe even sees it as agood thing. Obama 's lack of response on the issue gives little indication of what he thinks. In the end what matters is Obama's lack of action on this issue.

Pentagon Evangelicals/ Christian Embassy & Mikey Weinstein MRFF: Military Religious Freedom Foundation

Fault Lines: Evangelism in the military (Part 1)

Uploaded by AlJazeeraEnglish on Jun 25, 2009

The United States is a deeply religious country, over 90% believe in god and 80% believe in miracles. For the US military, dealing with its own religious identity has become an internal battle. Growing evidence points towards a rising influence of evangelical Christianity, and with two wars still raging in Muslim countries with significant religious overtones, there could be serious consequences for the US mission. Pentagon officials say incidents are isolated, aberrations occur, but others closely tied to the military and its religious leadership say a transformation is taking place with dire costs. On this weeks episode of Fault Lines, we look at the battle over the religious soul of the US military.

800,000 US troops forced to take what is basically a religious test and if they supposedly failed they were told to visit a chaplain and to start going to church on a regular basis. The test suggest that only a particular form of Christian Evangelical Fundamentalism . The attitude in the US military and the Pentagon that the best soldiers are true believing church going proselytizing Evangelical Christians all others are suspect. And where's President Obama on this important issue which attacks the very basis of the US Constitution and Bill Of Rights well he's MIA end of story.

US Military: Unconstitutional Discrimination Against Atheists & Agnostics

Uploaded by CRUClEFICTION on Jan 6, 2011
Countdown with Keith Olbermann, MSNBC, 1-6-2011
Mikey Weinstein,Military Religious Freedom Foundation

Are US Forces Trying to Convert Afghans to Christianity? Democracy Now 5/6/09 2 of 2

Uploaded by mediagrrl9 on May 6, 2009

"The Crusade for a Christian Military": Are US Forces Trying to Convert Afghans to Christianity?

The military is denying it allows its soldiers to proselytize to Afghans, following the release of footage showing US soldiers in Afghanistan discussing how to distribute Bibles translated into Pashto and Dari. We speak to Air Force veteran and former Reagan administration counsel Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and journalist Jeff Sharlet, author of a Harpers Magazine article on The Crusade for a Christian Military.

And here is the offical video for The Christian Embassy and its stated goals in influencing members of the US military and the members of the US federal government as well as proselytizing to mebers of foreign embassies hoping to have the Evangelical Christian message taken back to their respective homelands. So this is not just a few Evangelical Christians meeting to share fellowship but rather an aggressive program to make the US military and its government more in tune with this particular bran of Christianity. As one general said they get only about 50 complaints in 3 years about evangelical soldiers proselytizing to other soldiers whereas Mikey Weinstein says he receives thousands of such complaints a year. The problem is that if an individual in the military makes such a complaint this may negatively impact their daily life within the military as a soldier and/or may impact their military career.

The Christian Embassy promotion film and the Christian Dominionists incremental take over of the US military.

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