Soon to be tried in a Military Court / Show Trial Soviet -Style
GITMO DETAINEES America's Idea of Justice
DETAINEES BEING TORTURED AT GITMO
" Since (ha ha )if we detain someone they must be bad "
Arresting children and then torturing them followed by years of further abuse is acceptable to Americans and Canadians. We must afterall have our revenge for the 9/11 attack . Killing and kidnapping and torturing makes our socity feel good about itself. I wonder how we got to this stage where so many assume that all talk about human rights and the Geneva Conventions is merely a sign of weakness or at worst a sign that one is on the side of the terrorists. All those who defend such actions are always going on about our values as opposed to their values. But our values seem to include that one is presumed guilty and therefore being guilty it is okay to torture such people and then put them through the motions of a trial to appease all those little old ladies and theose feeble-minded bleeding heart ' liberal ' types. In the end our civiliztion will be no better than the extremist Taliban Regime. Is that the road down which we want to travel
PM Harper Says Americans Can Do What They Want - Claims Khadr deserves what he gets !!!
PM appears to agree with Bush , Cheney , & Rice :Torture okay for Terrorists detainees. Canada is anti- Geneva Conventions & other Old Fashioned Quaint International Agreements .
Once someone is accused of being a terrorists they no longer have any rights and legally the case is closed. Though the Americans may take the detainee through either a secret kangaroo court or through a soviet style Show Trial of which Canadians also see as more than these detainees deserve. So much for democracy , freedom and due process. Like Witches of old or suspected Communists of the 1950s Terrorists suspects are determined to be guilty before they are ever tried in a court of law.
Unfortunately most Canadians also approve of torture & of Imprisoning and executing Child-Soldiers which goes against international agreements. Canadians so want to be the 51st state it is disturbing.
Prime Minister Harper Kowtows To Bush Regime & proves Canadian Citizens not safe or immune from torture by US Personnel.
So Canadians should be careful when crossing the border into the US or going to countries where America makes the rules ie Germany, Britain , Italy and a majority of the countries in the world .
PM brushes off Khadr abuse evidence/Unsealed documents reveal U.S. used sleep deprivation on teen Andrew Mayeda, Canwest News Service/ July 10, 2008 Calgary Herald
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Lawyers, advocates dispute Harper claim of 'no real alternative' on Khadr July 10,2008
And as we see Americans are going ahead with their Kangaroo Court style-trial of Omar Khadr for War Crimes Yet Cheney, Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, Karl Rove etc. haven't even been arrested for the War Crimes they have Committed. When some kid in Afghanistan fights as a matter of obeying his parents against American invaders he is a terrorists while American soldiers and Bush " The Commander In Chief " orders people to be kidnapped, abused, tortured and executed on hearsay evidence we are supposed to support such barbaric actions when they are done by a Western white Christian Evangelical Leader such as George W. Bush or Holier then thou Tony Blair. Blair is now rather than being charged with war crimes will have a rather lucrative career in various Western Dominated organizations as they tend to the " White Man's Burden " while continuing to pilage and ravage the rest of the world to enrich themselves. Ah, Well that's who we are .
also see: Khadr war crimes trial set for Oct. 8 at Guantanamo Bay
Judge says date can be changed for legal reasons, June 19, 2008
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and so it goes,
GORD.
PM Harper Says Americans Can Do What They Want - Claims Khadr deserves what he gets !!!
PM appears to agree with Bush , Cheney , & Rice :Torture okay for Terrorists detainees. Canada is anti- Geneva Conventions & other Old Fashioned Quaint International Agreements .
Once someone is accused of being a terrorists they no longer have any rights and legally the case is closed. Though the Americans may take the detainee through either a secret kangaroo court or through a soviet style Show Trial of which Canadians also see as more than these detainees deserve. So much for democracy , freedom and due process. Like Witches of old or suspected Communists of the 1950s Terrorists suspects are determined to be guilty before they are ever tried in a court of law.
Unfortunately most Canadians also approve of torture & of Imprisoning and executing Child-Soldiers which goes against international agreements. Canadians so want to be the 51st state it is disturbing.
Prime Minister Harper Kowtows To Bush Regime & proves Canadian Citizens not safe or immune from torture by US Personnel.
So Canadians should be careful when crossing the border into the US or going to countries where America makes the rules ie Germany, Britain , Italy and a majority of the countries in the world .
PM brushes off Khadr abuse evidence/Unsealed documents reveal U.S. used sleep deprivation on teen Andrew Mayeda, Canwest News Service/ July 10, 2008 Calgary Herald
TOKYO - Canada has "no real alternative" but to maintain its policy on Omar Khadr, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said a day after documents confirmed Ottawa knew Khadr was "softened up" by U.S. authorities at Guantanamo Bay.
Newly unsealed documents reveal U.S. authorities used sleep-deprivation targets on Khadr before Canadian officials visited the terror suspect at the United States' military prison in Cuba in 2004.
On Thursday, however, the prime minister stuck closely to his government's line on the case.
Khadr, who was born in Toronto, was 15 years old when he was picked up by the U.S. army in Afghanistan during a shootout with American forces in 2002. He is accused of lobbing a grenade that killed a U.S. soldier.
He is the only Westerner still detained at Guantanamo Bay, because other nations have repatriated their citizens to face justice at home. The Harper government has refused to repatriate him, noting the seriousness of the charges against Khadr, who is expected to be tried later this year by a U.S. military tribunal.
On Thursday, Harper once again emphasized that Khadr has been charged with "extremely serious crimes."
"There's a legal process under way in the United States. He can make his arguments before that process, but frankly, we have no real alternative to this process now to arrive at the truth concerning the accusations against him, and we believe this process should continue," the prime minister said.
Canada is monitoring Khadr's detention in Guantanamo Bay to ensure he is treated humanely, Harper added.
Khadr, now 21, was subjected to what's known at the Guantanamo Bay prison as the "frequent flyer program."
It entails waking up a detainee every few hours and moving him to another cell so that he feels continually disoriented.
This happened to Khadr just ahead of a March 30, 2004, visit by Jim Gould, an intelligence officer with Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada.
"In an effort to make him more amenable and willing to talk, (text blacked out) has placed Umar in the 'frequent flyer program'," says an April 2004 report by R. Scott Heatherington, then director of the department's Foreign Intelligence Division.
"For the three weeks before Mr. Gould's visit, Umar has not been more than three hours in any one location. At three-hour intervals, he is moved to another cell block, thus denying him uninterrupted sleep and a continued change of neighbours."
In releasing the documents last month, a Federal Court judge concluded the tactic violates a United Nations convention signed by Canada and the U.S. that prohibits the use of torture against detainees.
The documents "paint a picture of a victimized and exploited boy," according to his lawyers.
The lawyers argue that the documents show the Canadian government knew early on that Khadr had faced abusive treatment at the hands of the Americans.
"Notwithstanding this information, the government of Canada has repeatedly stated that they will not intervene in Omar's case since they have received assurances from the United States that Omar is being humanely treated," the lawyers say in a news release.
"This oft-repeated mantra has now been proven to have been an attempt to misinform the Canadian public."
Within days, the lawyers are also expected to release some seven hours of videotapes that the Supreme Court also ordered the government to hand to them. They were taken during the visits by Canadian officials, and are expected to show, among other things, Khadr breaking down in tears.
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Lawyers, advocates dispute Harper claim of 'no real alternative' on Khadr July 10,2008
OTTAWA — Prime Minister Stephen Harper is playing fast with the facts when he says the Conservative government has "no real alternative" to the U.S. legal process in the Omar Khadr case, say the Canadian detainee's lawyers.
"This is a disingenuous comment from the prime minister," says Khadr's Canadian lawyer, Dennis Edney.
"The prime minister, through his cabinet members, particularly Mr. (Peter) MacKay, have long said that they have been assured that Omar Khadr was being well treated, when in fact the Canadian government well knew that was not the case," Edney said in a telephone interview from Edmonton.
The prime minister tried Thursday to distance his Conservative government from explosive new documents released by the Foreign Affairs Department.
And as we see Americans are going ahead with their Kangaroo Court style-trial of Omar Khadr for War Crimes Yet Cheney, Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, Karl Rove etc. haven't even been arrested for the War Crimes they have Committed. When some kid in Afghanistan fights as a matter of obeying his parents against American invaders he is a terrorists while American soldiers and Bush " The Commander In Chief " orders people to be kidnapped, abused, tortured and executed on hearsay evidence we are supposed to support such barbaric actions when they are done by a Western white Christian Evangelical Leader such as George W. Bush or Holier then thou Tony Blair. Blair is now rather than being charged with war crimes will have a rather lucrative career in various Western Dominated organizations as they tend to the " White Man's Burden " while continuing to pilage and ravage the rest of the world to enrich themselves. Ah, Well that's who we are .
also see: Khadr war crimes trial set for Oct. 8 at Guantanamo Bay
Judge says date can be changed for legal reasons, June 19, 2008
Canadian Omar Khadr was told by a military judge
Thursday at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, that his trial on war crimes charges will begin on Oct. 8.
The judge, Col. Patrick Parrish, said the date for trial by the controversial military commissions process can be changed for legal reasons if necessary.prison if convicted on charges of killing a U.S. army medic with a grenade during a firefight in Afghanistan in 2002. He was 15 years old at the time.
Khadr, 21, faces up to life in
Parrish was presiding over Khadr's pre-trial hearing for the first time.
The Toronto-born detainee's military lawyer, Lt.-Cmdr. William Kuebler, has accused the Pentagon of making last month's surprise change in judges to speed the process of getting his client to trial.
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and so it goes,
GORD.
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