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As Arianna Huffington notes she is shocked by John McCain's lust for war.
After insisting that future wars are just around the corner, McCain launched into a creepy riff in which the suffering of our soldiers seemed to leave him almost breathless with anticipation: "We're going to have a lot of PTSD [post traumatic stress disorder] to treat, my friends. We're gonna have a lot of combat wounds that have to do with these terrible explosive IEDs that inflict such severe wounds. And, my friends, it's gonna be tough, we're gonna have a lot to do."
"It's a speech that could easily have been delivered by Gen. Buck Turgidson, George C. Scott's war-loving character in Dr. Strangelove. "I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but I do say no more than 10 to 20 million killed - tops!"
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Arianna Huffington at Huffington Post Bush and McCain's Displaced Ardor for War
January 29, 2008
When it comes to the war in Iraq, the president and the leading GOP contender to replace him seem to be stuck in a time warp -- tossing out applause lines from years gone by and using rhetoric drawn from the Dark Ages of the Iraq debate.
There was the president, cobbling his final State of the Union address from the yellowing pages of old speeches (perhaps his speechwriters, in sympathy with the WGA, have gone on strike). In lieu of new ideas, we got blasts from the past such as "jubilant Iraqis holding up ink-stained fingers," "we are engaged in the defining ideological struggle of the 21st century," the obligatory mentions of 9/11, and the promise that "we will deliver justice to the enemies of America" (and somewhere in the mountains of Pakistan, Osama bin Laden does a spit take).
Bush also pulled out a pitch for the war that could have been uttered, unchanged, five years ago (and just might have been): "A failed Iraq would embolden extremists, strengthen Iran, and give terrorists a base from which to launch new attacks on our friends, our allies, and our homeland." The only things missing were 16 words on yellowcake from Niger and Colin Powell holding up a vile of baking soda standing in for anthrax. The problem is, our policy in Iraq has already failed, has already emboldened terrorists, has already strengthened Iran, and has already created a new terrorist breeding ground.
..."If we surrender," McCain told reporters at another campaign stop, "and wave a white flag like Senator Clinton wants to do and withdraw as Governor Romney wanted to do, then there will be chaos." He also compared Romney to Harry Reid and demanded that his opponent apologize "to the young men and women who are serving in uniform."
A Romney spokesperson called McCain "unhinged" -- a claim McCain helped bolster with a bizarre campaign rant this weekend in which he promised a crowd of supporters, "There's going to be other wars... We will never surrender but there will be other wars."
And, shockingly, the idea did not seem to fill him with unbearable sadness. In fact, he seemed like a grizzled football coach at the tail end of long career, finally about to get a shot at coaching in the Super Bowl.
After insisting that future wars are just around the corner, McCain launched into a creepy riff in which the suffering of our soldiers seemed to leave him almost breathless with anticipation: "We're going to have a lot of PTSD [post traumatic stress disorder] to treat, my friends. We're gonna have a lot of combat wounds that have to do with these terrible explosive IEDs that inflict such severe wounds. And, my friends, it's gonna be tough, we're gonna have a lot to do."
It's a speech that could easily have been delivered by Gen. Buck Turgidson, George C. Scott's war-loving character in Dr. Strangelove. "I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but I do say no more than 10 to 20 million killed - tops!"
Bush and McCain's tried-and-failed approach to matters of war and peace offers an important reminder that whatever difference the Democrats may have -- and how still more heated and divisive their race may become -- when it comes to Iraq, the two parties are heading in wildly different directions. Clinton, Obama, and the Democrats are all looking to the future while Bush, McCain and the GOP remain mired in a Neanderthal past.
also see from Information Clearing House :The Madness of John McCain:A militarist suffering from acute narcissism and armed with the Bush Doctrine is not fit to be commander in chief.By Justin Raimondo ,03/02/08 "American Conservative"
and as for Hillary Clinton she seems to make it up as she goes along claiming the US under the Clinton administration. were forced and were justified by Iraq's actions to do a four day bombing raid on Iraq. But this it appears is not quite true . At that time there were inspectors in Iraq and Clinton ordered them out of the country and then bombed Iraq.There was a snag a small disagreement was in the process of being resolved but Clinton used it as an excuse to attack Iraq. As we know Iraq' had destroyed what WMDs they had and stopped all related programs and the country had undergone harsh and unnecessary sanctions which punished all the people of Iraq for what ever crimes Saddam had committed.
Hillary Clinton Again Lies about Iraq
By Stephen Zunes at Information Clearing House
03/02/08 "ICH" -- -- In Thursday night’s Democratic presidential debate, Hillary Clinton lied again about Iraq.
At the forum in Los Angeles, Hillary Clinton declared, “We bombed them for days in 1998 because Saddam Hussein threw out inspectors.”
That statement was totally false. The bombing campaign had been planned for months and the inspectors were not thrown out. They were ordered out by President Bill Clinton in anticipation of the four-day U.S.-led bombing campaign.
And on the Bush invasion of Iraq she still defends her vote to go to war
...Indeed, in Thursday night’s debate, Senator Clinton claims that she voted to authorize war against Iraq in October 2002 because “we needed to put inspectors in.” However, this was also a lie, since Saddam Hussein had by that time already agreed for a return of the weapons inspectors. Furthermore, Senator Clinton voted against the substitute Levin amendment, which would have also granted President Bush authority to use force, but only if Iraq defied subsequent UN demands regarding the inspections process. Instead, Senator Clinton voted for the Republican-sponsored resolution to give President Bush the authority to invade Iraq at the time and circumstances of his own choosing regardless of whether inspectors returned. Indeed, unfettered large-scale weapons inspections had been going on in Iraq for nearly four months at the time the Bush administration launched the March 2003 invasion that Senator Clinton had voted to authorize.
This is part of a longstanding pattern of Senator Hillary Clinton misleading the American public about Iraq in order to justify her militaristic policies. It is important to remember that, back in October 2002, despite widespread and public skepticism expressed by arms control experts over the Bush administration’s claims that Iraq had somehow re-armed itself, Senator Clinton was insisting that Iraq’s possession of biological and chemical weapons was “not in doubt” and was “undisputed.” She also claimed, despite the reports of the International Atomic Energy Agency that Iraq’s nuclear program had been completely eliminated, that Iraq was “trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
This inevitably raises concerns that if Hillary Clinton is elected president, she will have no qualms about lying once again to the American people in order to justify going to war.
Stephen Zunes is a professor of politics and international studies at the University of San
And on the lighter side
Marx Brothers -Duck Soup Freedonia's going to war
Groucho makes as much sense as Bush
and so it goes,
GORD.
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