Monday, August 31, 2009

Town Hall Craziness & The Conspiracy Theorists

UPDATE: 1:44 & 2:06 PM Aug. 31, 2009

Bill Moyers Disses Obama as "Spineless" by Refusing To Fight For health care as a "RIGHT" rather than giving into "the Vested Interests"

"I think if Obama fought, instead of finessed so much, he stood up and declared for what is really the right thing to do and what is really needed instead of negotiating the corners away, instead of talking about bending the curve, and talking about actuarial rates, if he were to stand up and say, 'We need this because we're a decent country', I think it would change the atmosphere."

Moyers said that conservatives have dominated the debate over health care lately. "In the last few weeks, the right wing has been winning the debate. How [Obama] lost control of the narrative, I don't understand. Well, yes, I do. He didn't find the right metaphors, as you were just saying, and he didn't speak in simple powerful moral language. He was speaking like a policy wonk to the world of Washington, not a country of people who are hurting. ...

Bill Moyers Disses Dems as "Spineless" by Patrick Gavin at Politico via Truthout Aug. 30,2009

And now a featured most popular video from Tangle which used to be GOD TUBE re-branded to reach a wider less skeptical audience.


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Poster for September Religious Right & Conservative Conference in St. Louis. With the success of taking control of the debate over health care at Town Hall Meetings & in the Media with the support of Fox News & CNN, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal & New York Times and their successful campaigning on the internet the Religious Right & Conservative Movement has been "Reborn & Re-energized" & as far as they are concerned "Vindicated" as Obama turns into a Paper-Tiger on a number of issues. So we need to pay attention to what they and the Tea Bag Movement et al are up to before time runs out. They have become the loudest voice in America & they have the number, the anger, outrage, resentment & the GUNS.

Anyway talk about the death of the Religious Right has as they say been exaggerated but every couple of years someone decides that the Religious Right is dead & has lost "The Culture Wars" ah not so much.

As has been said before the Religious Right in the 1970s & 1980s set out to recreate America in its own image & according to its agenda one school board, one PTA Meeting, one city counselor & one Congressmen & one senator & one military officer at a time. Their numbers are estimated at about 20 million Americans who can be rather loud , noisy and overwhelming as they stack Town Hall Meetings or fill the streets around an abortion clinic. So we should never underestimate them no matter how crazy or bizarre they appear to act because they now have a foothold in every major institution including the US military & Pentagon & the Congress & Senate & combined with a myriad of Front organizations, think tanks and well funded lobbyists..

When The Going Gets Tough, The Right Starts A New Group By Kyle at Right Wing Watch & People For The American Way | June 30, 2009

Despite all of the predictions that the Religious Right was on its deathbed, they sure do seem to be extremely active of late.

Of course, they don't seem to have any new ideas or desire to change their agenda in any way, but in last few months have seen a flurry of new groups popping up designed to fill some unseen void that has been apparently responsible for their current predicament.

In the last few months we seen the arrival of the Faith and Freedom Institute, which was followed by Ralph Reed's Faith and Freedom Coalition, while Newt Gingrich was unveiling his Renewing American Leadership effort, and Lou Engle was announcing his Call to Action.

And now we come to find out via Pam that pretty much every Religious Right group has joined together under the umbrella of something called The Freedom Federation, including Renewing American Leadership and Call to Action, which were just recently created - so now you have two new groups created specifically to fill this void...

Odd Obama named Grassley as one of the friendly Republicans well not so much -doesn't inform Secret Service of a man at his Town Hall who threatens to kill Obama, WTF!!!
Sen Grassley (who promoted the false Death Panels conspiracy ) Allows Vet To Verbally Threaten Obama With Gun-Hardball Chris Mathews

Sen Coburn Tells Woman Crying Over Health Care "Govt Is Not The Answer" CNN Rick Sanchez

Sen Coburn as a conservative ideologue of course has no real sympathy for this woman . According to his radical 19th century Conservative ideology & his Religious Right views this woman and her husband created their own problems by not working hard enough, or not praying enough or by not being born into a wealthier family.If God had loved them he would have taken care of them.

As Rick Sanchez points out even if Sen Coburn helped out this woman and a few others there would still be over 45 million Americans left in the lurch & in need. As for local churches and communities they do not have the resources to help out large numbers of people in need.

Bachmann Roundup by Bill Prendergast at Daily Kos,August 28, 2009

Bachmann got the Billionaires for Wealthcare treatment.

The guy said "I agree, we have the best healthcare system in the world...... if you can afford it. He then went on to state " I don't want to give up my Social Security to socialism, I don't want to give up my Medicare to socialism. Bachmann got punked.

Note how a large number of people in the crowd seem to support this man and the woman who speaks after him -though others try to shout them down as they have been told to do and keep repeating various phrases which we know were sent out to them as Talking Points through the myriad anti-Health Care reform websites set up by the health insurance industry, the Republicans and the Religious Right or by e-mails. The hypocrisy is glaring when we see one of anti-Obama protesters claim their political representative will not listen to them or answer their questions. In this case Bachman is one of their own & so everyone is supposed to treat her with respect.

and more on the upcoming meeting of Religious Right & conservatives & "Real Americans " How To Take Back America Conference '09 in St. Louis Sept. 26-28.

Those wacky wingnuts and their zany conspiracy theories are just getting started. Next up: Obama's planned genocide by david Neiwert, at Crooks and Liars Aug. 30, 2009

In a few weeks, there’s going to be a big gathering of right-wing True Believers in St. Louis, at a convention called “How to Take Back America”.... promises to be something special. Guest wingnut luminaries speaking at the convention will include Rep. Michelle Bachmann, Rep. Steve King (the guy who claims that gays and lesbians wouldn't become hate-crime victims if they didn't flaunt it), Joseph Farah of World Nut Daily, and Gen. William G. "Jerry" Boykin (more about him shortly) plus, of course, such convention organizers as Phyllis Schlafly.

As Kyle at RightWingWatch notes, it looks to be a smashing good time, especially at the workshops, where you can bone up on such subjects as:

"How to recognize living under Nazis & Communists"

"How to deal with supremacist judges"

"How to defeat UN attacks on sovereignty"

"How to stop socialism in health care"

"How to counter the homosexual movement"

"How to stop the killings: pro-life solutions"

The video above was compiled from footage spotted by Kyle from a webcast promoting the conference.

Fundamentalist guru Rick Scarborough -- all you need to know about him is that he's an avid associate of Alan Keyes -- is featured in the first segment of the video, bemoaning the "crucifixion" of the 2008 election results. It's there mostly for the jaw-dropping amusement value.

The second half of the video is just downright weird: radio talk-show host Janet Porter, another of the conference's organizers, launches into a somewhat confusing array of conspiracy theories involving vaccines. Porter's theory is that President Obama and other nefarious types are currently trying to drum up hysteria about H1N1 flu so that they can give us a vaccine that will kill large numbers of Americans.

Seriously. That's her theory.

She even had on a woman named Jane Burgermeister on her radio program earlier this month, promoting precisely that theory:

Specifically, evidence is presented that the defendants, Barack Obama, President of the U.S, David Nabarro, UN System Coordinator for Influenza, Margaret Chan, Director-General of WHO, Kathleen Sibelius, Secretary of Department of Health and Human Services, Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, David de Rotschild, banker, David Rockefeller, banker, George Soros, banker, Werner Faymann, Chancellor of Austria, and Alois Stoger, Austrian Health Minister, among others, are part of this international corporate criminal syndicate which has developed, produced, stockpiled and employed biological weapons to eliminate the population of the U.S. and other countries for financial and political gain.

The charges contend that these defendants conspired with each other and others to devise, fund and participate in the final phase of the implementation of a covert international bioweapons program involving the pharmaceutical companies Baxter and Novartis. They did this by bioengineering and then releasing lethal biological agents, specifically the "bird flu" virus and the "swine flu virus" in order to have a pretext to implement a forced mass vaccination program which would be the means of administering a toxic biological agent to cause death and injury to the people of the U.S.

Now that is some top-shelf AAA Venusian-grade Crazy there, folks. It's almost enough to make me want to fly out to St. Louis just to witness it.

And let's not forget the high-quality advice we'd be getting. For instance, there's Gen. Boykin. Most folks remember Jerry Boykin as the general who made the war in Iraq out to be a religious crusade by "God's Army". But there's much, much more to Boykin than merely that; he also happens to be one of the chief upper-echelon culprits responsible for the atrocities at Abu Ghraib prison. And before that, he was directly involved in devising the FBI's disastrous strategy that produced the human disaster at the Branch Davidian Compound in Waco, Texas

and also see article at McClatchy Newspapers on Conspiracy Theories which are becoming more and more bizarre.

Secret camps and guillotines? Groups make birthers look sane by Steven Thomma at McClatchy Newspapers, Aug. 28, 2009

WASHINGTON — Is the federal government building secret camps to lock up people who criticize President Barack Obama?

Will it truck off young people to camps to brainwash them into liking Obama's agenda? Are government officials planning to replicate the French Revolution's Reign of Terror, using the guillotine to silence their domestic enemies?

No. The charges, of course, are not true.

However, the accusations are out there, a series of fantastic claims fed by paranoia about the government. They're spread and sometimes cross-pollinated via the Internet. They feed a fringe subset of the anger at the government percolating through the country, one that ignites passion, but also helps Obama's allies to discount broader anger at the president's agenda.

and so it goes,

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