Tuesday, October 07, 2008

Palin's Scary Folksy Style Theocracy with a Wink and a Betcha

Sarah Palin winking or just a " Tick " or just patronizing & dismissive of the Common Folk.

So anyway here's more on Palin.

McCain signals Radical Evangelicals that he will if elected take them seriously & push for policies to achieve their agenda of a more " Christian America ".

Here's some choice bits from Arianna Huffington's editorial response to the debate VP Debate:McCain's Big Gamble Comes Up Snake Eyes/Huffington Post /Oct. 3,2008

After watching this debate, I am convinced that if the country somehow has a collective mental meltdown and elects Sarah Palin, she will be even more dangerous than Cheney. Not only does she want more power for herself than the Constitution grants -- or than Cheney took for himself -- but she is so obviously not equipped to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, it takes your breath away that McCain picked her. He claims to be putting his country first, but the debate proved beyond any doubt that he has actually chosen to put his country on the betting line and roll the dice. And they've come up snake eyes.
Watching Biden and Palin on the same stage was like watching a tennis champion walk onto Centre Court at Wimbledon only to find himself facing an over-eager amateur from the local high school. Or as Pat Mitchell told me, "Biden was taking part in a vice presidential debate; Palin was taking part in a junior high debate."
Throughout the entire 90-minute debate, Palin came across as an over-wound windup doll, sporting a pasted-on-smile expression that never varied, except when she winked. Which she did repeatedly -- and pathetically. It was the folksiest appearance since Hee-Haw went off the air.
In the greatest disconnect of the evening, Palin repeatedly went to the Reagan well, offering up such Gipper classics as "there you go again" and that "shining city on the hill." But, really, during a week in which John McCain hopped on board Bush's $700 billion bailout, did Palin not see how incongruous it was to insist that government isn't the solution, it's the problem? And declare that all we need to get this country back on track is for the government to get out of our way? Isn't that what got us where we are today? Or had she been so busy cramming for the debate she didn't have time to read one of the so-many-she-can't-name-one newspapers she reads?

or from Newsweek.com a surprisingly candid & revealing article The Palin Problem:Yes, she won the debate by not imploding. But governing requires knowledge, and mindless populism is just that—mindless.Oct.4,2008 by Jon Meacham

Do we want leaders who are everyday folks, or do we want leaders who understand everyday folks? Therein lies an enormous difference, one that could decide the presidential election and, if McCain and Palin were to win, shape the governance of the nation.

In an interview before her debate with Sen. Joseph R. Biden, Palin offered a revealing answer to radio host Hugh Hewitt. "Governor, your candidacy has ignited extreme hostility, even some hatred on the left and in some parts of the media," Hewitt said. "Are you surprised? And what do you attribute this reaction to?"
On the phone from McCain's retreat in Sedona, Palin replied: "I think they're just not used to someone coming in from the outside saying, 'You know what? It's time that normal Joe Six-Pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency.' I think that that's kind of taken some people off guard, and they're out of sorts, and they're ticked off about it, but it's motivation for John McCain and I to work that much harder to make sure that our ticket is victorious, and we put government back on the side of the people of Joe Six-Pack like me, and we start doing those things that are expected of our government, and we get rid of corruption, and we commit to the reform that is not only desired, but is deserved by Americans." This is, presumably, good politics: it makes a strength out of a weakness, always a shrewd tactic.

... Palin sometimes seems an odd combination of Chauncey Gardiner from "Being There" and Marge from "Fargo."

Is this an elitist point of view? Perhaps, though it seems only reasonable and patriotic to hold candidates for high office to high standards. Elitism in this sense is not about educational or class credentials, not about where you went to school or whether you use "summer" as a verb. It is, rather, about the pursuit of excellence no matter where you started out in life. Jackson, Lincoln, Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Clinton were born to ordinary families, but they spent their lives doing extraordinary things, demonstrating an interest in, and a curiosity about, the world around them. This is much less evident in Palin's case...

and the writers referring to Palin's lack of experience or knowledge or intellectual curiosity and her Folksy style with a bit of a warning -

...What Palin knows, and what the country knows about her, is an issue for the next few weeks. Barack Obama is not the Messiah, and Biden is no Simon Peter, but it stretches credulity to say that Obama is no more qualified to be president than Palin is. Though you may prefer McCain-Palin to Obama-Biden, there is not the same threshold question about the Democrats that is now being asked about Palin.
Sitting with her for part of the Couric interview, McCain implicitly compared Palin to Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan, saying that they, too, had been caricatured and dismissed by mainstream voices. The linkages are untenable. For all of his manifold sins, Clinton was a longtime governor, and George H.W. Bush's attacks on his qualifications failed for a reason: people may not have respected Clinton's character, but they did not doubt the quality of his mind. A successful two-term governor of California, Reagan had spent decades immersed in politics (of both the left and the right) before running for president. He did like to call himself a citizen-politician, and Lord knows he had an occasionally ambiguous relationship with facts, but he was a serious man who had spent a great deal of time thinking about the central issues of the age. To put it kindly, Palin, however promising a governor she is, has not done similar work.

I could be wrong. Perhaps Sarah Palin will somehow emerge from the hurly-burly of history as a transformative figure who was underestimated in her time by journalists who could not see, or refused to acknowledge, her virtues. But do I think I am right in saying that Palin's populist view of high office—hey, Vice President Six-Pack, what should we do about Pakistan?—is dangerous? You betcha.
(With Holly Bailey, Karen Breslau, Suzanne Smalley, Michael Isikoff and Sarah Kliff)

also see Salon article What's the Difference between Palin and Muslim Fundamentalists? lipstick? A theocrat is a theocrat, whether Muslim or Christian.

Sept. 9, 2008 John McCain announced that he was running for president to confront the "transcendent challenge" of the 21st century, "radical Islamic extremism," contrasting it with "stability, tolerance and democracy." But the values of his handpicked running mate, Sarah Palin, more resemble those of Muslim fundamentalists than they do those of the Founding Fathers. On censorship, the teaching of creationism in schools, reproductive rights, attributing government policy to God's will and climate change, Palin agrees with Hamas and Saudi Arabia rather than supporting tolerance and democratic precepts. What is the difference between Palin and a Muslim fundamentalist? Lipstick.

McCain once excoriated the Rev. Jerry Falwell and his ilk as "agents of intolerance." That he took such a position gave his opposition to similar intolerance in Islam credibility. In light of his more recent disgraceful kowtowing to the Christian right, McCain's animus against fundamentalist Muslims no longer looks consistent. It looks bigoted and invidious. You can't say you are waging a war on religious extremism if you are trying to put a religious extremist a heartbeat away from the presidency.

and : McCain-Palin ticket Chills Arabs, Muslims-The Middle East Times Sept. 5, 2008 by Sana Abdallah

AMMAN -- With the U.S. presidential elections just two months away, many Arabs and Muslims are increasingly worried that a victory for another conservative Republican administration will exacerbate the tensions and turbulence that have followed the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.

and checkout the article Palin's Frightening Pentecostalism from Islamonline.net/ Sept. 15, 2008


America is a largely Christian nation; we have had 42 Protestant presidents and one Catholic, and all four of the main candidates this time around are Christians (McCain and Biden are Catholic and Obama a Protestant). So, my issue is not that Palin is a Christian; rather it is the particular brand of Christianity she has been affiliated with her whole life.

Pentecostalism is only about a century old but it is the fastest growing branch of Christianity in America and throughout the world. Its hallmark is having a strict interpretation of the Bible and lively worship services in which believers speak in "tongues" after supposedly being anointed by what is known as the holy spirit. Of late, Pentecostals have also become big supporters of "prosperity theology", meaning that believers should be rewarded with riches. They have also championed many conservative causes in America.

It is on the issue of Islam where Pentecostals and Palin worry me though. If one were to look at the biggest haters of Islam in the leadership of American Christianity, the majority of them are Pentecostals. Such as Rev. John Hagee of Christians United for Israel , Rev. Rod Parsley ("The fact is that America was founded, in part, with the intention of seeing this false religion (Islam) destroyed, and I believe September 11, 2001, was a generational call to arms that we can no longer ignore," Parsley states in his book Silent No More) Pat Robertson, who once claimed the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) was "an absolute wild-eyed fanatic … a robber and a brigand" and on other occasions declared Islam to be Satanic is also a Pentecostal. Pentecostal churches across America regularly hold pro-war rallies and are draped with American flags while the pastors and church members deride Muslims in worship services. The Pentecostal run Trinity Broadcast Network routinely holds anti-Muslim programming for the world to see. Pentecostals also make up the most fervent supporters of Christian Zionism.

also see: Newsweek.com/blog Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:22 PM
Palin and Alaska's Muslim Population by Michael Isikoff

In the video below an Iranian American shares his perspective on the Islamic Extremist who took control of Iran after the Fall of the Shah of Iran and that he fears that Sarah Palin and her Christian Extremist have a similar plan for the United States. Of course Christian Theocrats believe that their Theocracy no matter how oppressive would be the result of the will of the One True God whereas Islamic Theocracy is based upon false or heretical beliefs which were derived in their view by an egotistical deranged man who may have been under the influence of Satan. Jesus they tell us wasn't merely a great philosopher or teacher but was God incarnate and therefore His teachings supercede all the teachings of those teachers who are merely human and therefore apt to ere whether they call themselves religious teachers or philosophers or scientists their teachins are suspect. In the end once the Religious Right & Conservativew Evangelicals gain power it is necessary in their view that any teaching which in some way questions the Bible must be repressed . Ultimately it is therefore logical given their beliefs that the Religious Right would create an oppressive regime similar to that of Islamic Extremist.Since they believe that it is their duty to spread the word of Jesus and to silence all those who go against or question Jesus Teachings then this state of repression must follow.

The coming American tragedy
kurdatheistAdded: September 09, 2008

..Bringing religion into American politics is treason against the American constitution, one of most magnificent document in the history of mankind. If Sarah Palin or people that have convictions like her get into the white house, the laws will be interpret it in accordance with the Bible. They will do what they wish and just say that it was a task from God. Instead of approaching issues rationally they will impose their belief system on all of us. When religion and politics converge, it brings society to its knees. Please look at the example of Iran. God was only a Trojan horse to climb the ladder of power and the country was plundered by lunatics and charlatans. I do not want the American people lamenting and regretting later the loss and the decline of their country. Handing over your country to religious minded people will only bring decline of this beautiful land and will retard progress, making America second world country and possibly a third world country. Do you want that? I sure don't, that would be a tragedy. I love this country just too much and I tear up every time this possibility comes to my mind. Please vote wisely this November with the future of your nation on your mind and please do not repeat the same mistake that Iranians made back in 1979.

and so it goes,

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